undercoating with both Woolwax and Fluid Film

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I maintain our family’s fleet of older vehicles some of which are relatively low mileage considering their model year. 2013 Grand Carvan (71xxx miles), 2011 Terrain (160xxx miles), 2008 Silverado (80xxx miles), 2007 Focus (130xxx miles) and 2005 Grand Carvan (225xxx miles, winter beater).

All but the oldest are in decent shape but each have some bubbles and rusting starting to form in various places. Last fall/winter, I paid about $170 to have Krown applied to the Terrain. After considering the cost, I’ve decided to start undercoating on my own. I’ve watched several youtube videos and researched several forums (including BITOG). The most informative videos were two by South Main Auto where he shows his process.

Here are my random observations after coating two of my vehicles.

Here is what I purchased:
  • Woolwax Pro Undercoating Gun by Kellsport, includes two extension wands and three empty bottles - $120 Amazon
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  • 1 gallon black Woolwax - $70 Amazon
  • 5 gallon bucket of Fluid Film - $120 during Amazon Prime Days
  • 6 pack of Fluid Film Aerosol Cans with flexible Spray Can Extension Wand - $75 Amazon
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  • 50 pieces of Rustproofing Undercoat Caps Buttons Plugs for ½” hole - $13 eBay
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First, I started with my daughter’s Focus and used Fluid Film. It took about three quarts and two aerosol cans. After two weeks she is still complaining about the smell.

Next, I moved on to my wife’s Terrain. She has a sensitive nose and the Terrain is black so I opted to use Woolwax instead of Fluid Film. It also took about three quarts of Woolwax. I still used about two cans of aerosol Fluid Film with the small flexible extension wand. One advantage of the Fluid Film flexible extension wand is that it is about 0.2 inches diameter so it will fit through smaller holes, like if I remove a door latch bolt to reach in and film the cavity behind it. It was also easier to fit this into some gaps under the hood to spray into the fender cavities.

I do like the Kellsport undercoating gun but the hoses are a bit on the large side (3/8" OD) and only fit a 1/2" hole if going straight in. This makes it tough to angle the hose to reach into a specific area of a cavity. I need to look for some 5/8" plugs as that would give me a little more "wiggle room" to angle the hose. These 3/8" hoses would not fit into some of the existing gaps to fill the fender cavities accessible under the hood.

I also like the aerosol FF spray cans with a small red straw to hit the visible rust on the seams at the bottom of a door or trunk lid. It is very controllable in this fashion.

I am disappointed with the Fluid Film flexible aerosol spray can extension wand. It wants to pull off the barbed nipple too easily and make a mess. Also, it often leaks out under the button and makes the entire can a dripping mess.

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I want to make a new tip for the undercoating gun to adapt a very small hose to it. Hopefully I can eliminate the Fluid Film spray can extension wand issues and reduce cost by using bulk product instead of expensive spray cans. This will also help with smell if I can spray bulk Woolwax through small holes on my daughter/wife vehicles.

I hope to do the Silverado next. It is white and I am the primary driver so I plan to use clear Fluid Film exclusively on this one as the smell doesn't bother me. South Main Auto has a youtube short where Eric dumps cinnamon essential oils into the fluid film before spraying. I’m going to try that before spraying the Silverado to see if it will mask the FF smell and get daughter/wife approval.

The Woolwax is definitely thicker but I had no issues spraying it. But I left it sit out in the sun on a hot day before trying to use it.

Before spraying another vehicle, I want to mark each hose about 1 inch from the end. This will help me to know when to stop spraying as I pull out the hose. It makes a big mess if not stopping before the hose ends comes out of the hole!

I do have a lift in my barn. I was pleasantly surprised that the overspray has been less than expected. The Woolwax does make me look younger when the black overspray settles on my gray facial hair.
 
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I have used Woolwax in black for 4 vehicles, several years now. Doesn't wash away easily and is super easy to see where you applied it. I use the Kellsport gun myself and a can of FF for the really small holes
 
Your experience is similar to mine. I still like a few cans of spray for tight areas or quick applications when you have something apart. Otherwise I use bulk Woolwax or FF black.

NH Oil Undercoating makes a coating that has peppermint oil in it to prevent rodent intrusion. that might be a good option for sensitive noses.

Also try Surface Shield. It holds a bit better than most. I also tried Corrosion X recently and we'll see how that handles the winter.
 
Have gone from Fluid Film to Woolwax and now a Blaster Surface Shield convert. I have the Woolwax Pro Sprayer kit and is what I use with the bulk Surface Shield and it applies everything nicely.

Found the rattle cans of all three products and the extension nozzles to be hit or miss. Have to almost press down at exactly a straight movement or the product oozes out everywhere under the cap and down the can side. I have pretty much regulate to using the professional sprayer and wand extensions now instead but those have to be dialed in a bit also.




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Have gone from Fluid Film to Woolwax and now a Blaster Surface Shield convert. I have the Woolwax Pro Sprayer kit and is what I use with the bulk Surface Shield and it applies everything nicely.

Found the rattle cans of all three products and the extension nozzles to be hit or miss. Have to almost press down at exactly a straight movement or the product oozes out everywhere under the cap and down the can side. I have pretty much regulate to using the professional sprayer and wand extensions now instead but those have to be dialed in a bit also.

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My mechanics for the Mercedes and Volvos now use black NH Oil. They dropped Fluid Film because it doesn’t adhere as well as NH Oil.

That said, I’ve got a can of FF or Blaster Surface Shield at hand anytime I work on the car.

In New England rust proofing is your friend. 😉
 
I went from Fluid Film, to Woolwax, to Cosmoline. The Fluid film washes off way too quickly, the Woolwax is a sloppy mess applying, the Cosmoline seems to be the win for now.
 
Hoot - is that a Wagner power painter? How does it work in comparison to the air powered sprayers? Using my FF air sprayer is like a Fluid Film bomb going off. Its effective at covering the vehicle and the applicant.

I add Cosmoline to high spray areas like wheel well lips and bottom of doors and rockers. Its almost impenetrable. But it doesn't creep into seams and into the rust as well as the oily products. The spray cans are only good for one sprizt as well. I probably have about a dozen half used cans sitting around because I can't get the product out now.
 
Hoot - is that a Wagner power painter? How does it work in comparison to the air powered sprayers? Using my FF air sprayer is like a Fluid Film bomb going off. Its effective at covering the vehicle and the applicant.
Yeah, it is a older Wagner Power Painter. Sprays pretty well and is great for surface contact and under body touch ups. Just use the heavy latex nozzles. I still use the professional spray kit with wands though for the frame rails and other inside stuff but the electric power painter is great for yearly touch ups.

I would recommend if you do use an electric power painter, find either a cheap one and/or used one you do not mind making that a dedicated undercoat gun as I would not return it to regular paint duties.
 
For sure on the rattle cans. They're a pain. I've shot probably 3-4 of the red straws straight into rocker panels and doors, never to be seen or retrieved again.

That wagner power sprayer idea is excellent. I can see that working very well when the ambient temps are high.
 
Yeah, it is a older Wagner Power Painter. Sprays pretty well and is great for surface contact and under body touch ups. Just use the heavy latex nozzles. I still use the professional spray kit with wands though for the frame rails and other inside stuff but the electric power painter is great for yearly touch ups.

I would recommend if you do use an electric power painter, find either a cheap one and/or used one you do not mind making that a dedicated undercoat gun as I would not return it to regular paint duties.
Are you able to attach a tube to it for spraying inside the frame?
 
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