Ultimate Oil filter

[Bill_W]

Was thinking on what you would like to see in an oil filter?

Cost?
Media?
Bypass?
ADBV?

Would like to see this for my new Miata...

PurFlux filter media, no ADBV, base end bypass valve, OEM psi Bypass setting, OEM size can but heavier gauge. Spring at dome end.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Bill W quote:
Was thinking on what you would like to see in an oil filter?

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I would like to have Alexa inside my oil filter, so I could talk to her.

 

[skyactiv]

A cheap one with a Xanax pill because of the anxiety I'd have installing it. Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world.

 

[oldhp]

"Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Some" do hold oil better than others keeping engine quietier at start up. Just don't run them 50K miles.

 

[Imp4]

One that doesn't leak, tear, or otherwise malfunction.

 

[Revving2Redline]

Fram Ultra with external AN fittings to run to a turbo

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by oldhp
"Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Some" do hold oil better than others keeping engine quietier at start up. Just don't run them 50K miles.


What proof is there of that besides "Engines making it to 250K miles and still 'run good' " ... ??

I'm still waiting for someone to post any kind of official testing report that show there is no change in engine wear associated with keeping oil cleaner with better filtration.

 

[bbhero]

I agree Zee.... ISO particulate counts would show that cleaner over time truly adds up to a substantial amount. Also... If people feel that way how about pulling out their frame air filter... Yeeha... Who cares

Or you could so the same thing... Get a stp air filter that's only 90 percent

That horrible efficiency for a air filter.

 

[DoubleWasp]

Paper media, fiber end caps, fiber bypass, fiber filter can, integrated bypass media.

 

[Linctex]

Originally Posted by oldhp
Just don't run them 50K miles.


I've got 37,000 miles on a Fram Tough Guard.

Should be C&P in another couple months when I hit 50,000 miles

 

[bbhero]

How big and what size is that TG??
TG-2 size?

 

[littleant]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Bill W quote:
Was thinking on what you would like to see in an oil filter?

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I would like to have Alexa inside my oil filter, so I could talk to her.

Alexa would never stop talking

 

[4WD]

Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by oldhp
Just don't run them 50K miles.


I've got 37,000 miles on a Fram Tough Guard.

Should be C&P in another couple months when I hit 50,000 miles


It should do 75k easily …

 

[oldhp]

Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by oldhp
Just don't run them 50K miles.


I've got 37,000 miles on a Fram Tough Guard.

Should be C&P in another couple months when I hit 50,000 miles


What will a C & P show???

 

[oldhp]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by oldhp
"Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Some" do hold oil better than others keeping engine quietier at start up. Just don't run them 50K miles.


What proof is there of that besides "Engines making it to 250K miles and still 'run good' " ... ??

I'm still waiting for someone to post any kind of official testing report that show there is no change in engine wear associated with keeping oil cleaner with better filtration.


"Engines making it to 250K miles and still run good." Heeeeeeere's your proof, by you.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by oldhp
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by oldhp
Just don't run them 50K miles.


I've got 37,000 miles on a Fram Tough Guard.

Should be C&P in another couple months when I hit 50,000 miles


What will a C & P show???



A mess in there.
Stu/Adam showed us a 20K run and it showed Mr. Ugly in there, but held up well, despite more waves than the highest surfs in Southern California.

Not sure why anyone wants to subject their vehicles to abuse and yes, abuse is the right word.
Alexa and Mr. Ugly do not belong inside our oil filters.

 

[CT8]

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by oldhp
"Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Some" do hold oil better than others keeping engine quietier at start up. Just don't run them 50K miles.


What proof is there of that besides "Engines making it to 250K miles and still 'run good' " ... ??

I'm still waiting for someone to post any kind of official testing report that show there is no change in engine wear associated with keeping oil cleaner with better filtration.

I would say he makes his living keeping $50,000.00 engines alive.

 

[oldhp]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by oldhp
Originally Posted by Linctex

Just don't run them 50K miles.


I've got 37,000 miles on a Fram Tough Guard.

Should be C&P in another couple months when I hit 50,000 miles


What will a C & P show???



A mess in there.
Stu/Adam showed us a 20K run and it showed Mr. Ugly in there, but held up well, despite more waves than the highest surfs in Southern California.

Not sure why anyone wants to subject their vehicles to abuse and yes, abuse is the right word.
Alexa and Mr. Ugly do not belong inside our oil filters.[/quo

How long has it been going into bypass because it loaded up? Simple eyeball looking doesn't tell you how loaded it was. Abuse is correct. Being retired now......time will be the factor not mileage for my OCI's. No matter what anybody says.

 

[Bill_W]

Quote...
How long has it been going into bypass because it loaded up? Simple eyeball looking doesn't tell you how loaded it was. Abuse is correct. Being retired now......time will be the factor not mileage for my OCI's. No matter what anybody says.

That bypass valve is not carrying the load of flow. Just a cracked door to let a little through. UOA particle count rules.

Oil filters are the last ditch defence. Some oil filters proudly claim 20,000 mile before needing changing.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted by CT8
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by oldhp
"Because what oil filter we use doesn't make a difference in the real world."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Some" do hold oil better than others keeping engine quietier at start up. Just don't run them 50K miles.


What proof is there of that besides "Engines making it to 250K miles and still 'run good' " ... ??

I'm still waiting for someone to post any kind of official testing report that show there is no change in engine wear associated with keeping oil cleaner with better filtration.

I would say he makes his living keeping $50,000.00 engines alive.


"Keeping an engine alive" doesn't mean much of anything relating to any wear going on inside. Engines can be pretty worn and still be "alive" and still seem to "run good". If my engine was worth $50K it would certainly have high efficiency air and oil filters on it, and good full synthetic oil in the sump. My whole vehicles aren't worth $50K and they still get that treatment.