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Originally Posted by alarmguy
Originally Posted by buster
I'm pretty sure that is the case. It's meant to be put down first.

I asked Turtle Wax this question last summer and this was their response:

"Although, please be warned, our ICE Seal N Shine does work best as the base layer of protection. It will of course still provide hydrophobic properties and protection on your vehicle. Please be careful not to over apply product as this may cause streaking! "


Yeah, I have decided to go back to long lasting "paste wax" or the liquid equivalent.
I came from a time of Dupont Rain Dance, loved the stuff, lasted forever.
Then onto NuFinish, great product but like a lot of waxes, messes up the black plastic.

I liked the idea of the spray stuff because you could cover everything with it, plastics, glass, anything. But it does create streaks on my metallic black vehicle. Ill try using less.

Anyway, with all the hassle I am going to try the Turtle Wax Paste or Liquid Ice and wax like I did with the other products above. Will get at least 6 months out of it and I can cover plastics and such.
Thing is, stuff is hard to find, only place you can buy the paste is Amazon and only place you can buy the liquid form is Advance Auto.
Im walking through auto stores and Walmart and shocked at the lack of polishes and waxes, I mean, like, nothing except the easy to use spray stuff.

Im kind of shocked, I guess, the new generation, throw away generation doesnt even bother waxing anymore. (except people in these types of forums)

Had this discussion with my wife and we drive around to stores looking for Turtle Wax Ice Paste wax, no one had it, not even Walmart, I mean we are talking about Turtle Wax!
Anyway, after thinking about it, waxing and taking care of cars has gone away. Mentioned to my wife now that I think about it, when was the last time we EVER saw anyone in our community waxing their car or working on their car? Ummm ... never! Decades ago, it was common.
Same goes for gardening, landscaping, really anything unrelated to the internet is now a pastime. :o)

Unless TW has a new formulation of the their paste wax, it won't last very long. I used to use it a long time ago because it looked good, but the durability was terrible...have you thought about trying Collinite? It's easy to use, it can and should be applied to trim (it actually makes trim look like new), and it lasts a long time.
 
I have used the Ice paste and it was durable but that was years back. Four months in LV sun and still going. Since then it has been difficult to find.
 
Originally Posted by RyanY
Originally Posted by alarmguy
Originally Posted by buster
I'm pretty sure that is the case. It's meant to be put down first.

I asked Turtle Wax this question last summer and this was their response:

"Although, please be warned, our ICE Seal N Shine does work best as the base layer of protection. It will of course still provide hydrophobic properties and protection on your vehicle. Please be careful not to over apply product as this may cause streaking! "


Yeah, I have decided to go back to long lasting "paste wax" or the liquid equivalent.
I came from a time of Dupont Rain Dance, loved the stuff, lasted forever.
Then onto NuFinish, great product but like a lot of waxes, messes up the black plastic.

I liked the idea of the spray stuff because you could cover everything with it, plastics, glass, anything. But it does create streaks on my metallic black vehicle. Ill try using less.

Anyway, with all the hassle I am going to try the Turtle Wax Paste or Liquid Ice and wax like I did with the other products above. Will get at least 6 months out of it and I can cover plastics and such.
Thing is, stuff is hard to find, only place you can buy the paste is Amazon and only place you can buy the liquid form is Advance Auto.
Im walking through auto stores and Walmart and shocked at the lack of polishes and waxes, I mean, like, nothing except the easy to use spray stuff.

Im kind of shocked, I guess, the new generation, throw away generation doesnt even bother waxing anymore. (except people in these types of forums)

Had this discussion with my wife and we drive around to stores looking for Turtle Wax Ice Paste wax, no one had it, not even Walmart, I mean we are talking about Turtle Wax!
Anyway, after thinking about it, waxing and taking care of cars has gone away. Mentioned to my wife now that I think about it, when was the last time we EVER saw anyone in our community waxing their car or working on their car? Ummm ... never! Decades ago, it was common.
Same goes for gardening, landscaping, really anything unrelated to the internet is now a pastime. :o)


You speak the truth, brother! But on a "positive" note, lots of people have gotten really good at Halo and Fortnite!

Another agreement with alarmguy. Heck, I am the only one on my block who even has a wash line hanging out back in this day and age. Couple married neighbors behind me on both sides are in there early/mid 30s and want no parts of hanging wash -- let alone washing and waxing there vehicles. Younger people in this day and age are just lazy and want everything to be fast. Gentleman across the street from me retired from Sunoco being a union welder after 35 years at age 56. He went out and bought a brand new Hurricane RV and washes/waxes that regularly but I have yet to ever see him wash or wax his newer Jeep or Truck??? I personally enjoy washing/waxing/detailing my vehicles in signature and at the end of the day -- if I am grilling something or just going out to get the mail and happen to look at my vehicles -- there is instant satisfaction in what good ole fashioned elbow grease and sweat can produce.
 
Originally Posted by BAJA_05
Originally Posted by RyanY
Originally Posted by alarmguy
Originally Posted by buster
I'm pretty sure that is the case. It's meant to be put down first.

I asked Turtle Wax this question last summer and this was their response:

"Although, please be warned, our ICE Seal N Shine does work best as the base layer of protection. It will of course still provide hydrophobic properties and protection on your vehicle. Please be careful not to over apply product as this may cause streaking! "


Yeah, I have decided to go back to long lasting "paste wax" or the liquid equivalent.
I came from a time of Dupont Rain Dance, loved the stuff, lasted forever.
Then onto NuFinish, great product but like a lot of waxes, messes up the black plastic.

I liked the idea of the spray stuff because you could cover everything with it, plastics, glass, anything. But it does create streaks on my metallic black vehicle. Ill try using less.

Anyway, with all the hassle I am going to try the Turtle Wax Paste or Liquid Ice and wax like I did with the other products above. Will get at least 6 months out of it and I can cover plastics and such.
Thing is, stuff is hard to find, only place you can buy the paste is Amazon and only place you can buy the liquid form is Advance Auto.
Im walking through auto stores and Walmart and shocked at the lack of polishes and waxes, I mean, like, nothing except the easy to use spray stuff.

Im kind of shocked, I guess, the new generation, throw away generation doesnt even bother waxing anymore. (except people in these types of forums)

Had this discussion with my wife and we drive around to stores looking for Turtle Wax Ice Paste wax, no one had it, not even Walmart, I mean we are talking about Turtle Wax!
Anyway, after thinking about it, waxing and taking care of cars has gone away. Mentioned to my wife now that I think about it, when was the last time we EVER saw anyone in our community waxing their car or working on their car? Ummm ... never! Decades ago, it was common.
Same goes for gardening, landscaping, really anything unrelated to the internet is now a pastime. :o)


You speak the truth, brother! But on a "positive" note, lots of people have gotten really good at Halo and Fortnite!

Another agreement with alarmguy. Heck, I am the only one on my block who even has a wash line hanging out back in this day and age. Couple married neighbors behind me on both sides are in there early/mid 30s and want no parts of hanging wash -- let alone washing and waxing there vehicles. Younger people in this day and age are just lazy and want everything to be fast. Gentleman across the street from me retired from Sunoco being a union welder after 35 years at age 56. He went out and bought a brand new Hurricane RV and washes/waxes that regularly but I have yet to ever see him wash or wax his newer Jeep or Truck??? I personally enjoy washing/waxing/detailing my vehicles in signature and at the end of the day -- if I am grilling something or just going out to get the mail and happen to look at my vehicles -- there is instant satisfaction in what good ole fashioned elbow grease and sweat can produce.


I cringe every time I hear someone say "I took my car through the car wash"...I too enjoy admiring my detailing work when the task is done...
 
^ same here. Every now and then I'll see someone take an expensive car through a car wash and just shake my head.....maybe they're leasing it lol.
 
Wow to all the above ^^^^ glad I am not the only one, sometimes I think, things of value are taken for granted now, I hope one day these people dont wake up and find its all gone, like a big "reset" (heck it might be happening right now)
We are so distracted from the real things in life to the TV monitor and electronic games. ^^

Anyway, Grampi! Darn it, Collinite, no I never knew about it with plastics. Who knows maybe Ill look into it but I already bought Mcquires Ultimate Synthetic Wax exactly for that reason, safe with plastics. I gave up on the Turtle Wax paste, after seeing Mcquires says it is fine on plastics.

BUT I would REALLY like something that is meant for paint and plastics. Lets face it, with cars and trucks now, for me its important if your going to wax the vehicle, better make sure the plastics stand out as well. At the same time, even though I really do take care of my vehicles and ALWAYS like a coat of wax on them, I wish I had more time to do them more often so I would like something that lasts a while.
I am now semi retired ... so do have more time and I enjoy this kind of stuff and at the same time, still have a good amount of toys to take care of *L*

Anyway, guess I will try this mcquires out unless before I use it I find a good reason to return it. Im sort of excited to try it. Im Leary of what I just read regarding questionable amount of time the Collinite might last... I'll report back on the Mcquires Ultimate ... whenever I get a chance to finally try it.
 
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Originally Posted by alarmguy
Wow to all the above ^^^^ glad I am not the only one, sometimes I think, things of value are taken for granted now, I hope one day these people dont wake up and find its all gone, like a big "reset" (heck it might be happening right now)
We are so distracted from the real things in life to the TV monitor and electronic games. ^^

Anyway, Grampi! Darn it, Collinite, no I never knew about it with plastics. Who knows maybe Ill look into it but I already bought Mcquires Ultimate Synthetic Wax exactly for that reason, safe with plastics. I gave up on the Turtle Wax paste, after seeing Mcquires says it is fine on plastics.

BUT I would REALLY like something that is meant for paint and plastics. Lets face it, with cars and trucks now, for me its important if your going to wax the vehicle, better make sure the plastics stand out as well. At the same time, even though I really do take care of my vehicles and ALWAYS like a coat of wax on them, I wish I had more time to do them more often so I would like something that lasts a while.
I am now semi retired ... so do have more time and I enjoy this kind of stuff and at the same time, still have a good amount of toys to take care of *L*

Anyway, guess I will try this mcquires out unless before I use it I find a good reason to return it. Im sort of excited to try it. Im Leary of what I just read regarding questionable amount of time the Collinite might last... I'll report back on the Mcquires Ultimate ... whenever I get a chance to finally try it.

The Collinite will outlast the Meguiar's by a good amount...
 
Originally Posted by grampi

I cringe every time I hear someone say "I took my car through the car wash"...I too enjoy admiring my detailing work when the task is done...



I run our van through the car wash, but the truck only gets hand washed, except in winter where I'll take it through a touch less car wash to blast the salt off of it.

That shine though
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by grampi

I cringe every time I hear someone say "I took my car through the car wash"...I too enjoy admiring my detailing work when the task is done...



I run our van through the car wash, but the truck only gets hand washed, except in winter where I'll take it through a touch less car wash to blast the salt off of it.

That shine though
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I will take our vehicles through the car wash, but only when it's too cold out to wash by hand, and I only use brushless washes to spray the salt off of the undercarriage.
 
Originally Posted by RyanY
I also encountered streaks with TW S&S the first time I tried it. After posting about it here and trying again, I determined that my issue occurred because I did not completely dry the car before applying. No problems since then...now I just wash the car with dish soap and water, and then clay bar to remove as much junk as possible. Blow dry with a leaf blower, followed by wipe dry with MF towel. Then apply S&S with a clean MF towel. Probably the best shine I have ever seen with little effort.

I am curious how often do you apply, or in other words, how long the 'protection' lasts? I am trying to delay full detailing until Sept so that I don't have to do anything in dead of winter. I was wondering if TW S&S will fit the bill.
BTW, the car is under the sun 24/7
 
Originally Posted by MoneyJohn
Originally Posted by RyanY
I also encountered streaks with TW S&S the first time I tried it. After posting about it here and trying again, I determined that my issue occurred because I did not completely dry the car before applying. No problems since then...now I just wash the car with dish soap and water, and then clay bar to remove as much junk as possible. Blow dry with a leaf blower, followed by wipe dry with MF towel. Then apply S&S with a clean MF towel. Probably the best shine I have ever seen with little effort.

I am curious how often do you apply, or in other words, how long the 'protection' lasts? I am trying to delay full detailing until Sept so that I don't have to do anything in dead of winter. I was wondering if TW S&S will fit the bill.
BTW, the car is under the sun 24/7


I did the 300 July 2019, it was still beading water really well and keeping the car otherwise cleaner than normal in April 2020 when I traded it in. Like it would be covered in water, hit about 40mph and it would all fly off and be bone dry, it was kind of cool to watch.
 
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by MoneyJohn
Originally Posted by RyanY
I also encountered streaks with TW S&S the first time I tried it. After posting about it here and trying again, I determined that my issue occurred because I did not completely dry the car before applying. No problems since then...now I just wash the car with dish soap and water, and then clay bar to remove as much junk as possible. Blow dry with a leaf blower, followed by wipe dry with MF towel. Then apply S&S with a clean MF towel. Probably the best shine I have ever seen with little effort.

I am curious how often do you apply, or in other words, how long the 'protection' lasts? I am trying to delay full detailing until Sept so that I don't have to do anything in dead of winter. I was wondering if TW S&S will fit the bill.
BTW, the car is under the sun 24/7


I did the 300 July 2019, it was still beading water really well and keeping the car otherwise cleaner than normal in April 2020 when I traded it in. Like it would be covered in water, hit about 40mph and it would all fly off and be bone dry, it was kind of cool to watch.


Call me stupid Skippy but what product are you talking about ? *LOL*
and
Grampi ... are you saying the Collinite is good to use on the exterior plastics too?

I still have the McQuires unopened that I bought and I will most likely try that first but ... never know.
 
I've toyed with the ceramic sprays and they are OK but I'm sticking with TW SnS and TW, Ice Spray as my go to. They are so easy to apply, look great and last far longer than you'd expect.
 
Originally Posted by Toros
I've toyed with the ceramic sprays and they are OK but I'm sticking with TW SnS and TW, Ice Spray as my go to. They are so easy to apply, look great and last far longer than you'd expect.


TW S&S holds up really well. I was impressed.
 
It's one of the most durable per some the torture tests on YouTube by some detainers. I think it was Apex detailing that put all sorts of chemicals on it.
 
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
It's one of the most durable per some the torture tests on YouTube by some detainers. I think it was Apex detailing that put all sorts of chemicals on it.


I saw that too. For the $ it holds up extremely well. Once the sealant wears off that I have on now I'm going back to it.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
I've never heard of McQuires.

Lol, the number of people that misspell Meguiars is unreal
 
Originally Posted by alarmguy

Call me stupid Skippy but what product are you talking about ? *LOL*
and
Grampi ... are you saying the Collinite is good to use on the exterior plastics too?

I still have the McQuires unopened that I bought and I will most likely try that first but ... never know.


I should have put that in there
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Turtle Wax Shine n Seal
 
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by alarmguy

Call me stupid Skippy but what product are you talking about ? *LOL*
and
Grampi ... are you saying the Collinite is good to use on the exterior plastics too?

I still have the McQuires unopened that I bought and I will most likely try that first but ... never know.


I should have put that in there
lol.gif
Turtle Wax Shine n Seal


Wow that's impressive so I should be able to easily get away using seal and shine two times a year?
 
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