TS/Hurricane Milton

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

I talked to one of my old neighbors in Florida last night. He lives in east Bradenton just off the Upper Manatee River that sometimes has flooding issues after summer thunderstorms and is 13 feet above sea level. The Manatee river is a brackish tidal river and since Florida is so flat the river often flows backwards during incoming tides and Milton's storm surge is predicted at 15ft.

My neighbor told me he is riding it out.

Thankfully, our youngest son and his girlfriend evacuated last night.

 

[Dave Hess]

Unless you have to be in that area for work….. Get Out !!!

2 HCA hospitals have evacuated patients and transferred ICU patients to other facilities.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

I talked to one of my old neighbors in Florida last night. He lives in east Bradenton just off the Upper Manatee River that sometimes has flooding issues after summer thunderstorms and is 13 feet above sea level. The Manatee river is a brackish tidal river and since Florida is so flat the river often flows backwards during incoming tides and Milton's storm surge is predicted at 15ft.

My neighbor told me he is riding it out.

Thankfully, our youngest son and his girlfriend evacuated last night.

Reality is that some folks simply can not leave or leave for too long. The best hope for people like that is to get as far inland and to higher ground to avoid the unpredictable (sure-they have a good guess) height of the storm surges and how far inland it can invade depending on where a person lives. Once safe from the water the next thing is hope and pray you can shelter in something that can take massive winds. I been thru some storms that were Cat 1 and lower Cat 2s and I can promise I do not want to be any place around for any storm that is rated over a Cat 2. Those things are deadly killers that will always have some people who will not respect or fear them.

 

[alarmguy]

Fill up gas tanks, buy some non perishable food, charge all batteries, wash necessary clothes and hunker down.
Tampa region will get hit.

Tampa General Hospital using ‘Aqua Fence’ to keep storm surge out. Bad idea to build a large hospital so close to the water.

I watched a special on the Tampa hospital.
I didn’t watch the YouTube that’s posted here as there is no need to.

Tampa hospital was built to withstand hurricanes and floods. It is 32 feet above sea level, along with its back up generators.
The hospital can never flood nor can its back up power supplies.

32 feet is much higher than the barriers you see in these photos. I look at those barriers as. more of a convenience item to keep a few feet of water out from under the hospital and the entrances

 

[Plumb Bob]

Picked up a Champion 6250W at HD today. I was lucky they had just received the truck. Will run it for 3-4 hours tomorrow with the provided Champion 10W-30 oil, then Delo 15W-40 will go in. The likelihood of losing power is relevant.

 

[Mechanician]

I'm not talking cloud seeding. More like lasers and microwave energy.

How do mysterious lasers and microwaves, make more sense than the record breaking hot water in the gulf?
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...stest-intensifying-atlantic-storm-2024-10-08/

 

[thescreensavers]

Just Tropical storm warnings for me in WPB, haven't put up shutters or anything yet.... Probably will move my G37 into the garage and let the jeep handle the storm hah

 

[GSCJR]

Good luck my friends.

 

[eljefino]

Good luck my friends.

Stay thirsty my friends.

 

[Owen Lucas]

I'm not talking cloud seeding. More like lasers and microwave energy.

Here's the federal regulations on reporting of it. It list the various types of weather modifications that are monitored. I think they most certainly can spin up hurricanes. And there is the HAARP project too. The last set of thunderstorm that hit our area, predicted amounts were around .30" and it looked like what was coming. Then out of the NW you could see what looked like a video game with the shots coming from the Iowa NEXRAD station. Rain went south instead of proceeding east.

I think we are being shown that indeed there are nefarious people with unlimited resources behind this.

I look at it this way, if HAARP worked to modify the weather than you'd have China, Russia, and Iran all building these things and a lot of amateur satellite enthusiasts would have spotted these structures.

I read an article somewhere that HAARP would need to be the size of like 1000 football fields and consume multiple a terawatts of power to alter the weather in any measurable way. If there was enough power coming from this array I'm sure all of the HAM radio operators would go bonkers lol.

To me the reality is that hurricanes are normal this time of year and in the Gulf area. Ocean temps are rising slightly and this might help fuel future hurricanes. It's unpredictable so far because the Atlantic was warmer than ever last year and we had a mild hurricane season.

 

[burbguy82]

Can we talk about weather modification on this forum? Plenty of patents on it. Goes way back to the 1940s.

There are patents on everything, does not mean they are worth the paper they are printed on.

To be precise, we modify the weather all the time. In fact, every exhalation out of your mouth adds to a rain storm somewhere in the world at sometime. It is the water cycle. So you, without patent, are a weather modification machine.

Really, to the sense of modifying the weather TO A DEGREE that has a discernible difference, with a machine, is not really possible AND have no one know it. If it was, someone would have noticed it by now, and had a video on youtube......just like bigfoot.

In order to make a storm like Helene you would have to transfer more energy into the atmosphere than the storm would resultantly be, meaning you would have to have a machine that could release energy equal to 1000s of nuclear bombs...........and have no one know about it...........very very unlikely if possible at all..

 

[burbguy82]

Atlantic was warmer than ever last year and we had a mild hurricane season.

And so you correlate this to what? Andrew was in 1992, at time when the Atlantic Ocean was cooler?

 

[SHOZ]

There are patents on everything, does not mean they are worth the paper they are printed on.

To be precise, we modify the weather all the time. In fact, every exhalation out of your mouth adds to a rain storm somewhere in the world at sometime. It is the water cycle. So you, without patent, are a weather modification machine.

Really, to the sense of modifying the weather TO A DEGREE that has a discernible difference, with a machine, is not really possible AND have no one know it. If it was, someone would have noticed it by now, and had a video on youtube......just like bigfoot.

In order to make a storm like Helene you would have to transfer more energy into the atmosphere than the storm would resultantly be, meaning you would have to have a machine that could release energy equal to 1000s of nuclear bombs...........and have no one know about it...........very very unlikely if possible at all..

What makes you think no one knows about it? Trillions of watts?

 

[Owen Lucas]

And so you correlate this to what? Andrew was in 1992, at time when the Atlantic Ocean was cooler?

I'm just saying that the potential for more powerful storms is possible. Yes, very powerful storms happen regardless, but the frequency and strength could increase because hurricanes feed off of warm ocean temps.

Fun fact: Ocean temps are increasing because ships have been mandated to be more efficient. More efficient fuel burning means less sulfur dioxide emissions which actually reflected the suns rays enough to cool the ocean. Now that the ships don't emit enough SO₂ as previously, we now have a slightly warmer ocean.

https://eos.org/research-spotlights/lower-shipping-emissions-may-lead-to-higher-global-temperatures

 

[burbguy82]

What makes you think no one knows about it? Trillions of watts?

"knows" is the figurative word here.

Estimates are that a typical tropical storm, is upward of 600 terawatts. 600 Billion watts, which is over half of the entire worlds energy production. Of course this is only an "equal too" figure. The energy needed would have to be exponentially more powerful, depending on how far it was away.

This also would not account for the rain. Just the wind

Show some thermal satellite imagery of this machine in action, or even seismographic data would easily be had. A 10 megaton bomb going off every 20 minutes would be hard to miss.

Not to mention. would this device be mobile? Would the target only happen to be the coastal Gulf or Atlantic, where of course Hurricanes are already the norm?

 

[burbguy82]

I'm just saying that the potential for more powerful storms is possible. Yes, very powerful storms happen regardless, but the frequency and strength could increase because hurricanes feed off of warm ocean temps.

Fun fact: Ocean temps are increasing because ships have been mandated to be more efficient. More efficient fuel burning means less sulfur dioxide emissions which actually reflected the suns rays enough to cool the ocean. Now that the ships don't emit enough SO₂ as previously, we now have a slightly warmer ocean.

https://eos.org/research-spotlights/lower-shipping-emissions-may-lead-to-higher-global-temperatures

Sure. In the expanse of our time using "accurate measurements" is a farty in the wind, compared to the cosmos of time. Yeah, a CAT 20 storm is possible, not since we have measured them though.

Point is, just because there is a more powerful storm, does not mean causation is due to anything we have done or can do.....nor does it mean it will be more damaging. The damage a storm does really is dictated by what it hits, rather than what does the hitting.

 

[4WD]

It's done in Texas, I-45 and I-10 leaving Houston are turned around so that all lanes head out of Houston, if there is an evacuation.

The I69 corridor project comes from Houston to where I am - and everything is being raised - the road, bridges, and overpasses …

 

[4WD]

Intense storms are nothing knew and Max Mayfield was often annoyed by agenda driven correlation …
Worst to hit us was in 1961:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carla

 

[ripcord]

I came across this video of Milton presumably shot from the international space station. Wow!!!

 

[alarmguy]

I'm just saying that the potential for more powerful storms is possible. Yes, very powerful storms happen regardless, but the frequency and strength could increase because hurricanes feed off of warm ocean temps.

Fun fact: Ocean temps are increasing because ships have been mandated to be more efficient. More efficient fuel burning means less sulfur dioxide emissions which actually reflected the suns rays enough to cool the ocean. Now that the ships don't emit enough SO₂ as previously, we now have a slightly warmer ocean.

https://eos.org/research-spotlights/lower-shipping-emissions-may-lead-to-higher-global-temperatures

You are correct, which many are not aware of regarding the Atlantic as reported by a NOAA study, reduced pollution is one of 3 causes of a warmer ocean feeding storms. However the number of storms have not changed

Part of the report, you can read the full report in the link provided.

“Particulate pollution and other aerosolshelp create clouds and reflect sunlight away from the earth, causing cooling, Murakami said. The decline in particulate pollution due to pollution control measures may increase the warming of the ocean by allowing more sunlight to be absorbed by the ocean.

Diminishing manmade aerosols is one of the reasons for the active tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic over the last 40 years, Murakami said. However, toward the end of this century, tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic are projected to decrease due to the “calming” effect of greenhouse gases.”

Here is the NOAA study, great read.

https://www.noaa.gov/news/study-climate-change-has-been-influencing-where-tropical-cyclones-rage

(No politics, this is a NOAA study)