TS/Hurricane Milton

Just a thought. How much commotion and trouble would it be or will it be for all the people who would need to evacuate an area like that ahead of a big storm to charge up and leave in an E-car. Then where ever the poor rushed folks who do leave end up , how would all these million folks possibly be able to re-charge and attempt to return the hundreds of miles to homes that in many cases will be without power for days to sometimes weeks etc...... Just some thoughts about things some folks do not take into consideration when they are trying to force the population (especially the non - rich) folks to buy and use the products they simply want us all to.
 
It’s is now Hurricane Milton and rapidly intensifying
Yeah. What is dangerous is when folks towards the end of the storm season get complacent with storm fatigue and finally just cant go no more and decide to just sit there and take it without listening to officials evacuation orders or too tired of it all to get themselves ready as best they can. I been like that a few times some years where we would go for like three weekends in a row in the eye of different storms. It can get exhausting quick when those things keep popping up one after another.
 
Just a thought. How much commotion and trouble would it be or will it be for all the people who would need to evacuate an area like that ahead of a big storm to charge up and leave in an E-car. Then where ever the poor rushed folks who do leave end up , how would all these million folks possibly be able to re-charge and attempt to return the hundreds of miles to homes that in many cases will be without power for days to sometimes weeks etc...... Just some thoughts about things some folks do not take into consideration when they are trying to force the population (especially the non - rich) folks to buy and use the products they simply want us all to.
Gasoline is a problem in these scenarios as well. Florida is trying to get many evacuees to just go inland within 20-50 miles as they know the infrastructure cannot support the entire peninsula going to Georgia. Not enough space on the highways, hotels, gas, your charging stations....
 
Gasoline is a problem in these scenarios as well. Florida is trying to get many evacuees to just go inland within 20-50 miles as they know the infrastructure cannot support the entire peninsula going to Georgia. Not enough space on the highways, hotels, gas, your charging stations....
Trying to put gasoline in the same category as charging an EV is silly.
Also why would a state recommend leaving the state during a storm? No such thing happens. Typically anyplace along the east coast during a hurricane is to head inland away from the ocean, typically a few miles, but even 20 miles is nothing.

Furthermore gasoline is plentiful. You will always take the gas vehicle if you have one. There is no doubt in my mind and I am sure most all EV owners would agree the EV owner will take the gasoline vehicle that they own as the first choice in an evacuation, always.
 
Trying to put gasoline in the same category as charging an EV is silly.
Also why would a state recommend leaving the state during a storm? No such thing happens. Typically anyplace along the east coast during a hurricane is to head inland away from the ocean, typically a few miles, but even 20 miles is nothing.

Furthermore gasoline is plentiful. You will always take the gas vehicle if you have one. There is no doubt in my mind and I am sure most all EV owners would agree the EV owner will take the gasoline vehicle that they own as the first choice in an evacuation, always.
One of our Sr Engineers always mocked his stepson’s bro dozer diesel - but who do you think came and got him (in the flood water) …
Fortunately - he relocated his 911S before the rains hit 😷
 
Cat 5 right now but NHC states the core is small and tight right now and it will weaken some as the storm grows in size and the core as well as the hurricane expands. Still a major hurricane and the track way to soon to know, middle average ground of predictions is the Tampa area.
 
175 mph….

911 mB…

That very small eye feature is a good indicator of extremely rapid development.

I’m not surprised.

Question is what will the wind shear be like in 2-3 days ?
 
“ Barometric pressure has fallen to around 933 mb, which is down about 22 mb in 4 hours. The initial wind speed is set to 135 kt, which is an 80-kt increase in 24 hours (only eclipsed by Wilma 2005 and Felix 2007 in our records).” - NHC at 1000 this am.


“ A very very small eye forming…. That could mean extremely rapid deepening under way…


Wilma in 2005 had an eye that was literally less than 3 miles across when it went from a minimal hurricane to a 180 mph 878 mB monster in18 hours over the Caribbean Sea east of the Yucatan Peninsula.”

There’s the correlation there. I remember Wilma quite well…. Interestingly that Wilma had it’s explosive deepening on the other side of the Yucatan peninsula
 
180 mph

897 mB….

Remarkable stuff in basically 18-20 hours.

977 mB last night at 10 pm A 80 millibar drop in 21 hours is something else.

Eyeball replacement cycle starting now.

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Just some thoughts about things some folks do not take into consideration when they are trying to force the population (especially the non - rich) folks to buy and use the products they simply want us all to.
That’s the point if you look at it from a nefarious angle. Want to stop everyone from moving? Flip a switch, glitch the charging network etc.

Can we talk about weather modification on this forum? Plenty of patents on it. Goes way back to the 1940s.
Scientists can make it rain sprinkling salt into the clouds locally (condensation nuclei) but to create hurricanes this large? No way. If someone could I guarantee you this weapon would have been yielded many times against our enemies and to profiteer.

You have to understand that the amount of energy needed to create a hurricane is stored as heat within the Atlantic Ocean, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean. Man cannot control this energy. You’ll change the weather for sure blowing up nukes all over the place but that’s called nuclear winter. We can’t just focus lasers or radio waves and spin up a hurricane.
 
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If I was Desantis, I would make I-75 all northbound all the way to I-10 by this afternoon. Emergency traffic one lane only southbound.
 
If I was Desantis, I would make I-75 all northbound all the way to I-10 by this afternoon. Emergency traffic one lane only southbound.
Almost always that is what the states do with their interstate highways that are designated as official "evacuation routes."
It is strange if the state of Florida does not do so. Especially in the wake of this very strong (may end up the strongest) storms to hit the state. It is certainly a tough situation once all heck breaks loose and the masses realize "we MUST now get out." Then they all try to take off around the same time , many unprepared. All the roads back up very quickly and the gas stations start to run dry. Lots of people that do take off , sometimes have no idea even where they are headed to. It can be very tough. I feel sorry for the ones with small children who have to deal with this kind of mess. Not to mention what they may find once they try to return. I wish them all well.
 
That’s the point if you look at it from a nefarious angle. Want to stop everyone from moving? Flip a switch, glitch the charging network etc.


Scientists can make it rain sprinkling salt into the clouds locally (condensation nuclei) but to create hurricanes this large? No way. If someone could I guarantee you this weapon would have been yielded many times against our enemies and to profiteer.

You have to understand that the amount of energy needed to create a hurricane is stored as heat within the Atlantic Ocean, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean. Man cannot control this energy. You’ll change the weather for sure blowing up nukes all over the place but that’s called nuclear winter. We can’t just focus lasers or radio waves and spin up a hurricane.
I'm not talking cloud seeding. More like lasers and microwave energy.

Here's the federal regulations on reporting of it. It list the various types of weather modifications that are monitored. I think they most certainly can spin up hurricanes. And there is the HAARP project too. The last set of thunderstorm that hit our area, predicted amounts were around .30" and it looked like what was coming. Then out of the NW you could see what looked like a video game with the shots coming from the Iowa NEXRAD station. Rain went south instead of proceeding east.

I think we are being shown that indeed there are nefarious people with unlimited resources behind this.

§ 908.3 Activities subject to reporting.​


(a) The following, when conducted as weather modification activities, shall be subject to reporting:

(1) Seeding or dispersing of any substance into clouds or fog, to alter drop size distribution, produce ice crystals or coagulation of droplets, alter the development of hail or lightning, or influence in any way the natural development cycle of clouds or their environment;
(2) Using fires or heat sources to influence convective circulation or to evaporate fog;
(3) Modifying the solar radiation exchange of the earth or clouds, through the release of gases, dusts, liquids, or aerosols into the atmosphere;
(4) Modifying the characteristics of land or water surfaces by dusting or treating with powders, liquid sprays, dyes, or other materials;
(5) Releasing electrically charged or radioactive particles, or ions, into the atmosphere;
(6) Applying shock waves, sonic energy sources, or other explosive or acoustic sources to the atmosphere;
(7) Using aircraft propeller downwash, jet wash, or other sources of artificial wind generation; or
(8) Using lasers or other sources of electromagnetic radiation.

(b) In addition to the activities listed above, other similar activities falling within the definition of weather modification as set forth in § 908.1 are also subject to reporting.

(c) The requirement for reporting shall not apply to activities of a purely local nature that can reasonably be expected not to modify the weather outside of the area of operation. This exception is presently restricted to the use of lightning deflection or static discharge devices in aircraft, boats, or buildings, and to the use of small heat sources, fans, fogging devices, aircraft downwash, or sprays to prevent the occurrence of frost in tracts or fields planted with crops susceptible to frost or freeze damage. Also expected from the requirement for reporting are religious activities or other ceremonies, rites and rituals intended to modify the weather.

(d) All activities noted in paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section are subject to initial reporting. However, after the Administrator has received initial notification of a planned activity, he may waive some of the subsequent reporting requirements. This decision to waive certain reporting requirements will be based on the general acceptability, from a technical or scientific viewpoint, of the apparatus and techniques to be used.

(e) Other reporting exceptions may be made in the future by rule of the Administrator.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-15/subtitle-B/chapter-IX/subchapter-A/part-908
 
If I was Desantis, I would make I-75 all northbound all the way to I-10 by this afternoon. Emergency traffic one lane only southbound.
Logistics of that are insurmountable if not prepped and practiced.
Plus some may wish to evac south not north leaving the state.
Exit ramps are joined "backwards" Leos and barracades needed at all on ramps. Crazy stuff.

I heard FLA will allow breakdown lane travel if the average speed drops below 45mph.

I finally convinced my elderly cousin to evac N.E. from her condo on the coast just below St Pete - but she is only going inland about 15 miles and north 30 miles.
And she is waiting till the last few hours. Needs to work to pay bills.

IDK.
 
I talked to one of my old neighbors in Florida last night. He lives in east Bradenton just off the Upper Manatee River that sometimes has flooding issues after summer thunderstorms and is 13 feet above sea level. The Manatee river is a brackish tidal river and since Florida is so flat the river often flows backwards during incoming tides and Milton's storm surge is predicted at 15ft.

My neighbor told me he is riding it out.
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Thankfully, our youngest son and his girlfriend evacuated last night.
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Trying to put gasoline in the same category as charging an EV is silly.
Also why would a state recommend leaving the state during a storm? No such thing happens. Typically anyplace along the east coast during a hurricane is to head inland away from the ocean, typically a few miles, but even 20 miles is nothing.

Furthermore gasoline is plentiful. You will always take the gas vehicle if you have one. There is no doubt in my mind and I am sure most all EV owners would agree the EV owner will take the gasoline vehicle that they own as the first choice in an evacuation, always.
You've never seen them try to evacuate Houston, have you? It is the largest metro on the Gulf Coast. Traffic for days and no gas. Gasoline definitely not plentiful with a million+ cars on the road.

They've been going with a more targeted evacuation scheme in more recent years and that seems to work better.
 
Logistics of that are insurmountable if not prepped and practiced.
Plus some may wish to evac south not north leaving the state.
Exit ramps are joined "backwards" Leos and barracades needed at all on ramps. Crazy stuff.

I heard FLA will allow breakdown lane travel if the average speed drops below 45mph.

I finally convinced my elderly cousin to evac N.E. from her condo on the coast just below St Pete - but she is only going inland about 15 miles and north 30 miles.
And she is waiting till the last few hours. Needs to work to pay bills.

IDK.
It's done in Texas, I-45 and I-10 leaving Houston are turned around so that all lanes head out of Houston, if there is an evacuation.
 
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