Trying an E-Core!

[Ugly3]

I am getting a kick out of this thread. It appears that we can tell the quality of a filter by cutting it open and looking at it. All that means is that it did not fall apart. Tells nothing about the filtering job it did. How about used oil analysis with particle counts to determine the quality of the filter?

 

[Winston]

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Tells nothing about the filtering job it did. How about used oil analysis with particle counts to determine the quality of the filter?

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Have you done this? I look at the used oil analysis and rarely does anyone do particle counts. Also, used oil analysis with particle counts would not tell the whole story either.

 

[Ugly3]

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Originally posted by Winston:

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Tells nothing about the filtering job it did. How about used oil analysis with particle counts to determine the quality of the filter?

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Have you done this? I look at the used oil analysis and rarely does anyone do particle counts. Also, used oil analysis with particle counts would not tell the whole story either.

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What part of the story would not be told with a used oil analysis & particle count?

 

[Winston]

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What part of the story would not be told with a used oil analysis & particle count?

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Seriously?

-Whether the ADBV was functioning properly. Which is influenced by the design and materials of construction of the adbv.

-Location of the bypass valve (if that matters to you)

-Design of bypass valve which can influence its reliability.

-Amount of media. Your particle count would not tell you how "loaded" the filter was with debris. Which could affect its potential to go into bypass.

-Thickness of can, which affects "burst pressure"

Cutting open a filter allows you to find true bargain quality filters (Motorcraft) that are similar to Purolator but have silicon adbv's.

I agree that used oil analysis are very important in determining the quality of a filter, but as I said they do not tell the whole story. You can also cut up a lot of filters for the $40 ($20 analysis + $20 particle count) that it would cost for the analysis.

Oh and I found one used oil analysis with a particle count using a Mobil 1 filter. The results were impressive. So who is willing to spend $20 to do a particle count on a $2 ST? On the other hand, I would love to see one on a Pure One or Fram X2. Ugly? I'll do my X2 if you do your Pure One. I have 2K on my X2. I will be changing oil in about 3-4 months.

 

[Gary Allan]

Well, insolubles should tell you whether or not you have good filtration. It may not tell you whether your filter is the best or not ..but it should tell you if it's lame.

 

[kevz]

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Originally posted by Ugly3:
I am getting a kick out of this thread. It appears that we can tell the quality of a filter by cutting it open and looking at it. All that means is that it did not fall apart. Tells nothing about the filtering job it did. How about used oil analysis with particle counts to determine the quality of the filter?

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With all the posts about E-core endcaps not bonded properly...I just want to see if my filter stayed intact.

 

[Brian Miller_dup1]

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Originally posted by Ugly3:
I am getting a kick out of this thread. It appears that we can tell the quality of a filter by cutting it open and looking at it. All that means is that it did not fall apart. Tells nothing about the filtering job it did.

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That's exactly what I'm trying to prove to myself. I cut open a new ST3600 some time back, and I wasn't impressed with the construction. I felt that I could pull the endcaps off to easy. At that point, I kind of became a E-core basher (not as bad as others).

I just wanted to prove to myself, and share the pics with everyone what these look like after a well documented OCI on a truck in good condition.

I'm not trying to prove that they filter better than others, just that they stay together.

Brian

 

[sjlee]

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Originally posted by Brian Miller:

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Originally posted by sjlee:
Hey Brian,

How's the "experiment" going? How many miles until we see what your Ecore oil filter looks like?

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About 950 miles to go.

I just added my 2 oz. of LC this weekend.

The oil still looks great, and my oil pressure on my after-market gauge is acting the same as with Wix and MC filters.

I have a feeling that this filter is going to be just fine when I cut it open. We'll see in about a month or so.

Brian

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Any updates?

 

[Raven18940]

What are these "e-cores" y'all talking about?

 

[Filter guy]

Here you go..read for yourself..

http://www.champlabs.com/ECOREBROCHURE.pdf

 

[Raven18940]

Oh, that's neat.

 

[Filter guy]

Got one on my car..

 

[Ron Neisler]

The one thing I find about the E-cores is that they are hard to start, especially when you are doing it by feel, all comments welcome.

Ron

 

[Filter guy]

Years ago I used to know a potato farmer from Emmett. He retired and used to follow the greyhounds in Yuma and Portland. I met him in Portland.

I've had 2 E-cores on my car. Both times neither one leaked. As for installation..don't know, I had Firestone do it and neither time did the mechanic complain after he finished. As I had requested an oil sample and had to explain how to do that..