Tried NuFinish Today ...

[PimTac]

If you don’t like a certain product then that’s your business. Trying to convince others especially with snide know it all comments comes across as tr***ish.

Check out the Autogeek forums as well as other detailing forums. Many will test various sealants, waxes, and coatings with the same panel style format or use their car hoods taped off in squares. It does give a reasonable test result since all the products have the same exposure.

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Originally Posted By: Stevie
So Hyundaifan you LOSE.


Repeatedly/vigorously promoting an inferior, defective product like NuFinish helps no one - nothing to win.

No matter how many times they're repeated, arbitrary assertions are not factual data.

Rooftop testing -- exposed the false claims and phony testing process of NuFinish by Consumer Reports - mike drop.

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Originally Posted By: PimTac
If you don’t like a certain product then that’s your business.

Guess that works both ways then...2 sides to the coin.

But no harm no foul...if someone likes a product...great. Enjoy.

However, when some folks aggressively try to change minds on a product that literally has hundreds and hundreds of online testimonial posts all over the internet about problems using it, a product that has no viable data to substantiate its durability claims, while routinely leaving a problematic residue on trim...and then either pretending or denying those things aren't happening...is doing no one a favor to their fellow vehicle owner.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: Stevie
You've had many folks post about how well they like NuFinish with pictures to show results. I know how great it works and lasts. It may be harder to work then some waxes but worth it. Klasse is about 5 times harder to work but folks still swear by it.

I'll post later a video of how Consumer reports scientifically did the tests to show durability.


Right now I'm trying to get ribs and food ready for or Memorial day calibrations. I just don't understand the bad-mouthing and name calling on your part because you prefer a different product.


Collinite 845 is easier to use, lasts longer, leaves no residue, and doesn't stain trim...tell me again why people use NF?

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Collinite 845 is easier to use, lasts longer, leaves no residue, and doesn't stain trim...tell me again why people use NF?

Great question (with no actual good answer of course).

Some of the same NuFinish bogus claims are exposed and confirmed in these easily-googled pieces:

http://www.expert-mobile-car-detailing.com/nufinish.html

https://www.best-auto-detailing-tips.com/nu-finish.html

...and many of the very same NuFinish problem points have been covered before on this site for about 10 years now...

NuFinish Review - Bob is the Oil Guy website

Why anyone would intentionally encourage/promote the use of that awful product knowing this information is questionable.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: HYUNDAIFAN0001
Originally Posted By: grampi
Collinite 845 is easier to use, lasts longer, leaves no residue, and doesn't stain trim...tell me again why people use NF?

Great question (with no actual good answer of course).

Some of the same NuFinish bogus claims are exposed and confirmed in these easily-googled pieces:

http://www.expert-mobile-car-detailing.com/nufinish.html

https://www.best-auto-detailing-tips.com/nu-finish.html

...and many of the very same NuFinish problem points have been covered before on this site for about 10 years now...

NuFinish Review - Bob is the Oil Guy website

Why anyone would intentionally encourage/promote the use of that awful product knowing this information is questionable.





The ONLY reasons I can see to use NF is because it's cheap and can be picked up at Walmart...

 

[SirTanon]

Originally Posted By: HYUNDAIFAN0001
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: HYUNDAIFAN0001
Originally Posted By: Eddie
Hmmm. Appears like FINISH KARE expects me to redo every 2-3 months if I want a long lasting protected finish. I pass and stick with NuFinish which I picked up today for $6.59 which is enough for 3 normal size sedans. Ed

Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid lasts much longer than that FINISH KARE stuff...and it's actually a good product (easy on, easy off, no residue...unlike NuFinish). I'll stick with a Meguiar's quality product that costs div>


After your earlier hogwash about protection, please educate us how do you know the length of protection of the Meguires product?

Prepare to be educated.

Perhaps it's the same source as NuFinish hogwash claims about their durability? Then again...Meguiar's doesn't make such crazy claims for specific terms of durability that no consumer could prove either way. Perhaps you missed the posts discussing how there is indeed NO scientific evidence of ANY of these products lasting as long as they claim...at least none publicly available. There's plenty of urban legend posts on the topic, and user testimonial claims...but no real proof.

Why anyone knowingly would even consider using a product like NuFinish that nearly everyone knows leaves residue, can't prove their durability claims, and is harder to work with...is both puzzling and sad.

In the meantime...GOOD NEWS...they are now selling NuFinish Kool-Aid in 55 gallon drums for those who like drinking it in vast quantities...and it quenches their thirst for up to a year!

At least I spelled Meguiar's correctly. Eh?


.. well I'm still waiting for this supposed "education".

I believe KrisZ's comment was in regards to Megs vs the Finish Kare product, not Nu Finish. Also, the FK product that has been repeatedly touted here is the Hi-Temp paste wax, which does not require the 2-3 month re-application. No idea where you read that, but it's wrong.

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Originally Posted By: SirTanon
.. well I'm still waiting for this supposed "education".

I believe KrisZ's comment was in regards to Megs vs the Finish Kare product, not Nu Finish. Also, the FK product that has been repeatedly touted here is the Hi-Temp paste wax, which does not require the 2-3 month re-application. No idea where you read that, but it's wrong.

It takes all of 4-5 minutes to get "educated" on this topic via doing a search on nearly any product.

There are a number of well-established, well-documented quality products from Meguiar's, NuKare, Mothers, Chemical Guys, Collinite and others. There's a reason why the professional detailers use their various offerings - because they are proven, reliable, and quality products. Try finding a professional detailer who uses NuFinish - there's a reason why you won't.

I was always instructed that I should never do any homework for someone else, especially a bully (not you)...so I'm not about to start now...those folks will have to home school themselves.

 

[SirTanon]

Originally Posted By: HYUNDAIFAN0001
Originally Posted By: SirTanon
.. well I'm still waiting for this supposed "education".

I believe KrisZ's comment was in regards to Megs vs the Finish Kare product, not Nu Finish. Also, the FK product that has been repeatedly touted here is the Hi-Temp paste wax, which does not require the 2-3 month re-application. No idea where you read that, but it's wrong.

It takes all of 4-5 minutes to get "educated" on this topic via doing a search on nearly any product.

There are a number of well-established, well-documented quality products from Meguiar's, NuKare, Mothers, Chemical Guys, Collinite and others. There's a reason why the professional detailers use their various offerings - because they are proven, reliable, and quality products. Try finding a professional detailer who uses NuFinish - there's a reason why you won't.

I was always instructed that I should never do any homework for someone else, especially a bully (not you)...so I'm not about to start now...those folks will have to home school themselves.


I'm a regular on multiple detailing sites, including Autogeek and Autopia, so I'm very familiar with those products, and a huge list of others. Heck, I have an entire 3-shelf cabinet in my garage dedicated to detailing products.. CarPro, Megs, Collinite, FK, Chemical Guys, Blackfire, McKee's 37, Eagle One, and even some Turtle Wax Ice products.. but no NuFinish.


.. having said that, I think the issue here is two-fold.

1 - It's all about delivery. In this post, and other posts of yours I've seen, sometimes you can come off as confrontational. Whether that's simply due to choice of wording or otherwise, I can't say. No slam against you, just an observation.

2 - Everyone has their 'favorite' when it comes to stuff for their car, and where detailing products are involved, even moreso. While I agree that NuFinish is not nearly as good as most other quality detailing products, it does have its place, and there are a lot of people who have come to love it for their own reasons. It's definitely not the worst product out there in terms of durability, but IMHO, it has too many down sides for me to ever consider using it.

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Originally Posted By: SirTanon
I'm a regular on multiple detailing sites, including Autogeek and Autopia, so I'm very familiar with those products, and a huge list of others. Heck, I have an entire 3-shelf cabinet in my garage dedicated to detailing products.. CarPro, Megs, Collinite, FK, Chemical Guys, Blackfire, McKee's 37, Eagle One, and even some Turtle Wax Ice products.. but no NuFinish.

.. having said that, I think the issue here is two-fold.

1 - It's all about delivery. In this post, and other posts of yours I've seen, sometimes you can come off as confrontational. Whether that's simply due to choice of wording or otherwise, I can't say. No slam against you, just an observation.

2 - Everyone has their 'favorite' when it comes to stuff for their car, and where detailing products are involved, even moreso. While I agree that NuFinish is not nearly as good as most other quality detailing products, it does have its place, and there are a lot of people who have come to love it for their own reasons. It's definitely not the worst product out there in terms of durability, but IMHO, it has too many down sides for me to ever consider using it.

I appreciate the contents of your post - you are clearly very "experienced" through the use of a myriad of products. Thanks for your observations...like everyone else, you are entitled, and yours are appreciated. While my inventory is not to the degree you must have, my actual product usage is almost as diverse.

Context also plays a role in "delivery". I respectfully don't see "manipulation avoidance from propaganda" as "confrontational", but I can appreciate a few folks seeing them as nearly the same thing (particularly those asked to separate product fact from fiction). No worries...we've never taken any of the contrarian posts personally. Unfortunately we live in a world often demanding instant gratification and simple answers to complex topics.

There is a good deal of terrific information and superb voluntary content provided at this site. My contention is that people promoting or insisting upon erroneous product information at the expense of innocent readers who may not know better themselves...that is a dis-service. Newer readers seek/need reliable information, but apparently a few posters don't share that same value system (doesn't apply to you).

So it would seem there has been plenty of good information for those seeking it in this thread, with added content likely to be redundant.

 

[Chris B.]

There is so much B S and nonsense in this thread it is comical! I've been a pro detailer for over 25 years with 15 of those years full time for those who don't know me(I'v been on this forum since the beginning but have stayed away recently because of all the junk in here). I have been on this forum and posted hundreds of pictures over the years. I stopped coming here because of the baloney like this thread. You use to be able to come here and learn and trade detailing tips. Now it is full of "experts" who continuously bash good products and probably have never tried even half of them. I have asked for basic pictures of their work and not a SINGLE picture has ever been posted....EVER! I posted a "guessing game" some years ago on this forum when I asked what "wax" a Z28 was finished in. Many guessed high end products. A few heads exploded when I posted a bottle of NuFinish on the car. It just goes to show that NuFinish has a better shine then most "detailers" will give it credit for. NuFinish is a solid product with durability that hangs with the very best products. I use it all the time for customers who what long lasting protection....yes I said PROTECTION.
Which brings me to my next point. Beading and sheeting have ALWAYS been the industry test for protection. If water does not do this, the paint is exposed. If it does, then there is a barrier between the water and paint. To argue otherwise is borderline re-tar-ded. If you say this proves nothing, then it applies to all products so why bother? Once water stops beading or sheeting the product is breaking down and is no longer protecting. "Clear coat paint will bead water just like wax" bulll crrap!!! Statements like that prove you are a novis and don't know what you are talking about! When the paint is new it will bead water because of the oils in the fresh paint. Once those are gone water will lay flat. Here a a few pictures from yesterday when we had a hard rain storm. This picture is of my coworkers vehicles. None of them have any wax except the gray Accord which is 7 years old and has a 8 month old coat of NuFinish. The red F150 is off camera to the right and is a year old. The Kia is newer and the white Accord is pretty old. The Silverado is older and also has no wax and lives 100% in a garage when not in use and the paint is in excellent condition. It is raining pretty hard in the pictures and you can see the drops hitting the ground but does not show up hitting the paint. You can see the gray Accord's paint beading really well even in the first picture off in the distance if you look closely but all other vehicles have flat water and unprotected paint that does not sheet or bead at at all.

So instead of spreading all kinds of nonsense and biased baloney, why dont you actually learn how to detail properly and try out these good products instead of bashing them constantly? Maybe post a few pictures instead of running your mouths and not producing jack s___! Everyone knows I like NuFinish, I have posted TONS of pictures over the years showing it does last and protects better then most yet all I hear is "nope your wrong" with out posting a single shred of evidence or pictures/video of your work. Seriously, some of you guys are like trying to talk to a 2 year old! Oh and Orange is my favorite color(not because of NuFinish LOL) and I did vote for Trump because I like to make more money and his polices allow me to as a small business owner. I can't believe you guy bring up politics on a detailing forum....you guys are awful and have ruined this place.

 

[Chris B.]

Orange is my favorite because of this car. One of the few Lambos I have detailed. That is me in the drivers seat. I will own one with in the next 10 years.

 

[RooflessVW]

I will always stand by my statement that NuFinish is difficult to use, and is the main reason why I avoid it. I just don't see a benefit, aside from the fact that it costs $8 where something like Meguiar's Ultimate is $15.

I also don't like it's particular type of shine - some sealants have a "plastic-y" look and I avoid them.

If you like it, keep using it. I just personally feel that there are better choices for not much more money, especially when broken down to cost per application.

I post all of my results here as well, so...

 

[Chris B.]

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I will always stand by my statement that NuFinish is difficult to use, and is the main reason why I avoid it. I just don't see a benefit, aside from the fact that it costs $8 where something like Meguiar's Ultimate is $15.

I also don't like it's particular type of shine - some sealants have a "plastic-y" look and I avoid them.

If you like it, keep using it. I just personally feel that there are better choices for not much more money, especially when broken down to cost per application.

I post all of my results here as well, so...


None of that was directed at you. Just the few that CONSTANTLY complain about how awful NuFinish is but never post anything to back up their claims when others do. Many different people have posted pictures and results with NuFinish showing its does indeed last. It may not be the best shine but its durability is with out a doubt very good.

 

[CKN]

Originally Posted By: Chris B.
There is so much B S and nonsense in this thread it is comical! I've been a pro detailer for over 25 years with 15 of those years full time for those who don't know me(I'v been on this forum since the beginning but have stayed away recently because of all the junk in here). I have been on this forum and posted hundreds of pictures over the years. I stopped coming here because of the baloney like this thread. You use to be able to come here and learn and trade detailing tips. Now it is full of "experts" who continuously bash good products and probably have never tried even half of them. I have asked for basic pictures of their work and not a SINGLE picture has ever been posted....EVER! I posted a "guessing game" some years ago on this forum when I asked what "wax" a Z28 was finished in. Many guessed high end products. A few heads exploded when I posted a bottle of NuFinish on the car. It just goes to show that NuFinish has a better shine then most "detailers" will give it credit for. NuFinish is a solid product with durability that hangs with the very best products. I use it all the time for customers who what long lasting protection....yes I said PROTECTION.
Which brings me to my next point. Beading and sheeting have ALWAYS been the industry test for protection. If water does not do this, the paint is exposed. If it does, then there is a barrier between the water and paint. To argue otherwise is borderline re-tar-ded. If you say this proves nothing, then it applies to all products so why bother? Once water stops beading or sheeting the product is breaking down and is no longer protecting. "Clear coat paint will bead water just like wax" bulll crrap!!! Statements like that prove you are a novis and don't know what you are talking about! When the paint is new it will bead water because of the oils in the fresh paint. Once those are gone water will lay flat. Here a a few pictures from yesterday when we had a hard rain storm. This picture is of my coworkers vehicles. None of them have any wax except the gray Accord which is 7 years old and has a 8 month old coat of NuFinish. The red F150 is off camera to the right and is a year old. The Kia is newer and the white Accord is pretty old. The Silverado is older and also has no wax and lives 100% in a garage when not in use and the paint is in excellent condition. It is raining pretty hard in the pictures and you can see the drops hitting the ground but does not show up hitting the paint. You can see the gray Accord's paint beading really well even in the first picture off in the distance if you look closely but all other vehicles have flat water and unprotected paint that does not sheet or bead at at all.

So instead of spreading all kinds of nonsense and biased baloney, why dont you actually learn how to detail properly and try out these good products instead of bashing them constantly? Maybe post a few pictures instead of running your mouths and not producing jack s___! Everyone knows I like NuFinish, I have posted TONS of pictures over the years showing it does last and protects better then most yet all I hear is "nope your wrong" with out posting a single shred of evidence or pictures/video of your work. Seriously, some of you guys are like trying to talk to a 2 year old! Oh and Orange is my favorite color(not because of NuFinish LOL) and I did vote for Trump because I like to make more money and his polices allow me to as a small business owner. I can't believe you guy bring up politics on a detailing forum....you guys are awful and have ruined this place.


There are so many biases on this forum-it's hard to sort through them all. Your post was very well said. The same applies to any NEW TECH that comes out, collision avoidance, cruise control that keeps a safe distance between you and the next car, of course CVT's, cylinder deactivation, the list goes on. Many complain about new tech but a look at their signature and you see they drive a car 15 to 20 years old.

I think some bring up politics hoping to lock up the thread.......

 

[HYUNDAIFAN0001]

Since everyone likes photos...here's my brother's 2000 Mercedes E320.

Note: He only takes photos of his car when its NOT raining, but it beads up every rainfall like it was just waxed (which I didn't believe possible with the little exterior care it has received until I saw it in person several times over the years). He does wash it somewhat regularly.

Looks nearly new...water beads up as well as the Honda photo shown in the previous post...he never had it detailed and only waxed a (sad) total of 4 times in the past 18 years...using only Meguiar's paste wax. Yeah...he's not what we'd call "motivated".

If water beading up alone is the accurate measurement of car's paint protection...his every-4-years-or-so doing a wax job seems provides more than adequate protection using that eyeball measurement. If so...maybe there's no need to ever use detailers.

NOT - I didn't seriously buy that logic for a second either...just making a point - folks shouldn't buy into the beading alone proving protection "theory". If it were true, no one would ever clay bar their cars nor polish and seal/wax them periodically.

Just look at a newly washed car where water beads up and then looks shiny when dry (like my brother's in the photo)...only to run your hands on the surface and feel all the gritty contaminants that calls for a clay bar treatment. His paint surface needs a clay bar treatment for sure, and more detail steps as well...no real surprise there. There's no photos that can demonstrate this kind of common occurrence, nor the longer term problems it can create to the car's finish. Waxing it alone won't solve that problem...only mask reality...but it will still bead up in the rain.

I openly admit to being mistaken...we've now have found the one detailer who uses/likes Nufinish. I stand corrected and offer my apologies for being wrong.

P.S. if I owned a Lamborghini like in the photo and found out they used NuFinish detailing it...well...let's just day the work would get "undone" by someone else.

 

[Chris B.]

What ever dude! I just showed you 4 or 5 examples Of how paint will not bead water without some protection. You then show/post a nice clean, dry car that has no water on it at all and talk about beading and protection *****! You really are grabbing for straws! I guarantee if you parked that white Mercedes next to those other cars in the rain the water will be sitting flat on it exactly like the others. Nice try man but keep bashing NF and stuff you know nothing about. Keep making up [censored] trying to sound like you know what you’re talking about. Maybe when you move out of your moms house and start doing some real work you’ll understand.

The Lamborghini was not waxed with NF. But it would do a nice job preserving the paint for many years to come just like the 22-year-old truck posted above that has had over 40 coats of it in its lifetime and the paint is in nearly perfect condition.

 

[Dave Hess]

Chirs B,

Your detailing looks good.

I'm not into detailing my vehicles, just a simple wash. If you were in my area I'd pay you for a good wash and wax.

 

[Chris B.]

Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Chirs B,

Your detailing looks good.

I'm not into detailing my vehicles, just a simple was. If you were in my area I'd pay for a good retailer.


Thanks Mr. Nice! You are a nice guy LOL!

I just get tired of people bashing good products when they have little to no knowledge about them. I would be more than happy to detail your car if I was closer to you. I’m kind of semi retired from detailing though but I poke in from time to time to see what kind of nonsense is going on in here LOL

 

[Stevie]

Chris B. great of you to come in with your expertise and set the record straight. Those of us who have actually used the products know what's up.