Trans Cooler HELP

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Hello all, I got the Hayden Trans Cooler and I got it with discount for 20$




anways it come with them push in ties,

do i push them right throug the fins of the radiator and condesor??

I mean wont that cause damage?

Someone let me know

Im talking about this

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Thanks
 
Originally Posted By: solorexpy
Just don't pull them too tight. Snug so the cooler doesn't rattle or move is what your looking for.


Thanks.


its not that heavy so I dont think it will hurt the radiator or the condensor.

If it was heavy I might think DIFF

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I work at a radiator shop and we are always fixing damage that's caused by those zippy things. They WILL eventually wear a hole in 1 or more tubes!

I recommend that you buy some metal straps and mount those to the core support then use the zippy things to hold the cooler to the straps.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
I work at a radiator shop and we are always fixing damage that's caused by those zippy things. They WILL eventually wear a hole in 1 or more tubes!

I recommend that you buy some metal straps and mount those to the core support then use the zippy things to hold the cooler to the straps.


I agree but you heard it from the horse's mouth above!
 
(Edit - mod) there is just no ROOM... Honda Accord LX

its the Hayden 401 so its suppose to fit.

Ill figure somthing out.
 
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
I work at a radiator shop and we are always fixing damage that's caused by those zippy things. They WILL eventually wear a hole in 1 or more tubes!

I recommend that you buy some metal straps and mount those to the core support then use the zippy things to hold the cooler to the straps.


Yea Im going to have do that b.c no room that way.
 
+1 on getting creative.

Metal straps run vertically/horizontally may be the best option.

Those zip ties will eventually wear a hole in whatever they are attached to.
I've seen it myself.

BTW, I love ATF coolers, They do their job very well.
 
How long is the radiator expected to last? Perusing the web it seems they do not last forever. Point being, if you were to proactively replace in say 2 years, why not zip tie?

I wonder if you could mount someplace remote and use a fan on it.

Does this have a cooler on it already? I'm wondering how necessary this is. I mean, does it even need much airflow over it, since I presume (assume?) you are not towing with an Accord?
 
I wouldn't use the zip things or a tube cooler either for that matter.
Plate and fine coolers are much more efficient and in some case even internally bypass cold fluid so the transmission reaches operation temp properly in cold weather.

GM offers an old cooler for the 90's W bodies that is plate and fin and has mounting tabs that can be easily modified.
You can use OEM hard lines, make your own or use threaded barb fittings and hose, its a very versatile unit. It is made in Canada by Modine and is very solidly built.

I have used bolts, nuts and even Christmas tree style push pins to hold it in place all are perfectly acceptable. It was offered on some GM Police packages.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9BX1E/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I installed this on a car with OEM hard lines, used nuts on the bottom and a bolt and push pin on top for clearance reasons of a scoop that fits over the push pin. Its solid a brick out house.
The thread tape on the fittings is not for leaks, it uses flare fittings. I use it to prevent corrosion between the aluminum cooler and steel fittings.

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Originally Posted By: supton
How long is the radiator expected to last? Perusing the web it seems they do not last forever. Point being, if you were to proactively replace in say 2 years, why not zip tie?

I wonder if you could mount someplace remote and use a fan on it.

Does this have a cooler on it already? I'm wondering how necessary this is. I mean, does it even need much airflow over it, since I presume (assume?) you are not towing with an Accord?


No I do not tow but What the heck if it helps the trans why not.

I still have not put the trans cooler on as Im still not sure how to do it without useing them plastic clips

I wish I saw some pics
 
Looks like Im going to have to take the whole bumper OFF, I do not want to bend all the cooling fins to much.

However it looks like there is at least 20 screws and plastic clamps that hold it.

I have to wait till i have some help, I like to have a extra set of hands when I do somthing like this.

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Originally Posted By: David1
Looks like Im going to have to take the whole bumper OFF, I do not want to bend all the cooling fins to much.

However it looks like there is at least 20 screws and plastic clamps that hold it.

I have to wait till i have some help, I like to have a extra set of hands when I do somthing like this.

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Installing an auxiliary trans cooler in an Odyssey requires front bumper removal. A second set of hands is really useful for that task. Even if you don't tow, it's a good move on a notorious weak point of V6 Honda/Acura vehicles of that era.

Are you adding a Magnefine to the return line from the aux cooler?
 
Everybody here is talking about it being a "good move" and such to install a cooler on Hondas but what I don't hear are oil temp numbers. How hot do these things get? That has always been the measure of whether a car really needs more cooling or not. Adding extra cooling to a trans that doesn't need it does nothing or the money spent and if operated in a cold climate, overcooling can cause some issues.

I used to have a wonderful mechanical gauge that I could hook up to all sorts of things (sadly it is now dead) but years ago I installed it on my 2000 Honda Accord and didn't note any temps that were out of bounds ... AT LEAST THE WAY WE OPERATED THE CAR (185-200F was max and 160-180 was typical). That will be the big difference. People whose cars operate in a city environment with lots of cycles (shifts) and lots of time with the converter locking and unlocking are likely to see higher temps that I do operating in a rural environment.

Being that David1 is in FL, it eliminates the possibilities of overcooling in winter and the higher ambient temps may be an indicator of higher trans temps, so I am not questioning his choice in this case. All I am counseling here, for him and others, is to include some objectivity into the process. Many of the experts on this that I have consulted over the years say that job one is to first install a trans temp gauge, monitor it for long enough to determine whether you need more cooling and how much extra cooling you need if you do. Following that advice has saved me money in a few cases by showing I didn't need a bigger cooler... but probably also saved the transmissions in my working rigs by showing me I needed an auxiliary cooler or a bigger one.
 
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