Traded my '05 Corolla CE for '08 Sonata GL...

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Nice looking car.

For years Hyundai built such junk, they really have their act turned around. And the factory warranty is great as well.

Does that motor have a timing belt or chain? If a belt do you know when the service is due?
 
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Yeah, the thing is that I wasn't the "real" father of the minou. We were a "reconstituted" family so to speak and the minou's mother (also owner of the 2006 Matrix XR) also decided to leave the house.



I get it now. I thought you were talking about the cat's biological mother, hence my confusion earlier.
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Nice looking car.

For years Hyundai built such junk, they really have their act turned around. And the factory warranty is great as well.

Does that motor have a timing belt or chain? If a belt do you know when the service is due?




Timing chain. Maintenance free.

The basic warranty in Canada is 5 years/100 000 km all around, i.e. powertrain and global limited.

But best of all, Hyundai of Quebec dealers had a 4K rebate on the '08 GL but for the manual transmission only. So while the manual transmission model was discontinued for '07 and with lots full of 07's, I paid $18295.Can ($22295. - $4000.) for an '08. That's thousands less than base Avengers, Sebrings, Altimas, 6's, not to mention Accords and Camries which fetch 25-26K overhere.

In fact, I paid less than similarly equiped compacts such as Civic, Sentra, etc.
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Sounds like a nice find. Time to update your sig.
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In retrospect, I think I would have actually liked my '00 Accord V6 if it had a manual transmission, alas that wasn't an option for that model year. I thought I'd be OK with a slushbox, but I only lasted a year before letting it go.
 
Some info on Hyundai's version of the World Engine from Wikipedia;

Hyundai Theta engine
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The Hyundai Theta (G4KC) is a gasoline 4-cylinder automobile engine family.

The third all-aluminum engine of Hyundai Motor Company debuted in the fifth-generation Hyundai Sonata sedan, which was unveiled in August 2004 in S. Korea.

It features hollow stainless-steel DOHC with powder-metal cam lobes, pent-roof combustion chamber and shimless bucket tappets in the cylinder head.

BorgWarner Morse TEC supplies the complete set of timing system that uses the company's proprietary silent timing chains. CVVT(Continuously-variable valve timing) works on the intake side.

The aluminum alloy engine block, which is formed using high-pressure die-cast method, has a unique Metaldyne-supplied cassette-type balance shaft module with a two-stage oil pump built-in. In the lower-end, the block is reinforced by a ladder frame. Other notable features include fracture-split sinter-forged connecting rods and stainless-steel exhaust manifold.

Theta's EMS(engine management system) software is EMS-II from Siemens VDO and the 32-bit PCM(Powertrain Control Module) calculates the amount of intake air by utilizing a contamination-proof hot-film type MAF(mass air flow) sensor.

Chrysler Corporation produces a modified version of Theta, dubbed World Engine, in Dundee, Michigan. Theta and World Engine share the same basic cylinder head and enigne block design. Chrysler engineered their own air intake system and exhaust manifold which is made of gray cast iron.

The World Engine also differs in the EMS as it measures the amount of intake air indirectly using a MAP sensor, another cost-saving feature of the Chrysler-modified engine.

Contrary to the official line of Chrysler Corporation, the Theta engine factory in Asan, S. Korea is not a part of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance. Construction of the Korean factory began in August 2003 and it came on line in April 2004. It is owned and operated by Hyundai Motor Company

And this from Hyundai Motor America Techician Internet Training. So well done I made it a bookmark for future reference;
http://www.hmatraining.com/HMA_NewModel-Sonata/content/Theta 2.4.swf
 
Filled up the Sonata for the first time today;
540 km for 44.0 litres = 8.15l/100 km or 34.7 mi/Imp gal or 28.9 mi/US Gal.

Official figures are 9.6/6.3 (26/34 mi/USG) and considering that I did mostly short trips in the city and suburban driving with some traffic thrown in, it's not bad at all.
 
Second fill-up today. I'm just a shade below the 1000 km mark.

440 km for 35.64 liters = 8.10l/100 km or 34.9 mi/Imp gal or 29.1 mi US Gal.

That's for mixed city/suburban/highway driving but no trips longer than 50 km.
 
Congrats! your new car looks great!
just curious: any reason you didn't go with the v6?
one of my friends just got one, and i took it for a drive...excellent performance, silky smooth engine with very nice power...I'm sure the 4-banger is no slouch either.
 
Congrats! Nice Car... We rented an 06 when we went to Washington state on vacation to see family. Ours had the V6 and seemed to have plenty of power. Gas mileage didn't seem too bad either for all of our in town trips. The ride was great too.. nice, quiet and refined.
 
Why not the V6?

Yeah, fuel economy (gas is a tad over a buck a liter overhere), price and no need for the V6. The 4K discount was only on the '08 base GL with manual transmission. Just what I wanted and no more.

Problems with the Toyota?...

Not really, it was a great small car but the Sonata is so much better. I only have 100 km on it. General level of comfort, ride, NVH, roominess and performance is way ahead of my Corolla, that's for sure.

The Corolla was a perfectly good compact car but my mistake when choosing the '05 3 years ago was going down from a Honda Accord, a car that I really liked.

First of all, everyboydy knows that the Gen 9's driving position is awkward. I had to have my feet too close (especially with winter boots on) in order to have the steering wheel still too far away and the seatback too upright for good comfort. I trimmed my dead pedal which helped but the lack of a telescoping wheel made getting the right driving position impossible. My Sonata doesn't have the telescoping wheel but the seat-wheel-pedals relationship is good from the outset.

Listening to the radio or CD on the highway was next to impossible in the Corolla. Too much road noise coming from the floorpan, fenderwells and firewall I guess. I put better 3-way speakers in the front doors and saw no change. On coarse pavement and concrete highways and worst of all, in rainy weather, it was painful. It's a car that made you drive at slower speeds on the highway.

The suspension was a bit jiggly on bad city streets, read everywhere in my area. Things were better with 195/65-15 Yokohama TRZ's I put on it but not the best.

The car got tossed around quite a bit in windy conditions on the highway. Light, narrow and tall cars can't defy the laws of physics no matter what. But as a city car, it was great.

The interior was well laid out but contained too much hard plastic causing various intermittent rattles. Heating/ventilation controls were of the ancient cable operated variety and felt cheap. Too bad because the platform felt very stiff.

Engine management and electronic throttle (DBW) were less than perfect. I had the no-start condition once in a while after being stopped for a couple hours and also began to experience the hunting fast idle last winter in the -12 to -15C range. The fast idle was too fast (up to 2000 RPM) and throttle just off idle was jerky when cold. Also, the engine RPM was always racing up on a fast 3-4 and 4-5 upshift. Like if the electronic throttle was behind the curve for a fraction of a second on those occasions and made me feel like I was shifting like an amateur, though I drove manual transmissions all my life and never experienced this behavior in any other car.

Gearing of the 5 speed was also less than perfect. 4th was too tall and close to 5th which left a big hole between 3rd and 4th and killed acceleration in 4th.

The Corolla would last for ever but was lacking in general refinement and details surprising coming from a company like Toyota. I would have kept it maybe 3 more years (like I usually do) but the 4K discount on an '08 Sonata was one deal I couldn't resist. Cash deal mind you and fully paid for so it's not like I did a dumb thing to refinance a car that was not actually fully paid for before re-embarking on another loan or something.

Toyota is taking a big chance by delaying the 10th gen one more year, so let's hope it meets and exceeds all expectations so it can go chasing Civics, 3's, Lancers, Sentras, etc. and have a chance of winning the war instead of relying on the Toyota name and typical Toyota reliability and resale value to enrole new customers. On that subject, I had an e-mail conversation last week with a lady I know (low 50's) who's been driving Hondas for 20 years and she just traded her '04 Corolla for an '07 Elantra. Things are not static and do actually change in the auto-industry with newcomers Hyundai/Kia starting to attract old time Honda and Toyota repeat buyers.


Voilà!
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Minou, My dad just bought an Azera, I was not a Hyundai fan until i drove it, wow it has 260 some odd horse power.that car runs good as a mofo.
 
I think you have made a very good choice especially with the five speed and the whopper discount. I also had the same generation Corolla but an '03 five speed. Due to the awkward driving position I was forced to get rid of it in less than one year of ownership....it was physically painful to drive it for more than 90 minutes or so.
I traded for an '04 Accord 2.4l five speed and have been more than pleased.

Your Miles per gallon are excellent especially considering the newness of the engine.
 
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