Tractor drank 10 quarts of oil - YIKES

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Just got back from the family farm where I spent two days driving the ole 1950 Case model D tractor. Pulled the disc/harrow and cut up massive weeds and vines. In that two day period, Mighty D drank 10 quarts of oil (20W50). When I stopped for lunch today and let the tractor idle before shutting it down, it was smoking so bad, you could hardly see the tractor. Had to remove the spark plugs and clean them twice, (burned them clean with a blowtorch). Even so, oil pressure read a steady 30 pounds the entire time.
 
At that rate you could get a ring job paid for by not running it a few weeks. LOL
 
Do the compression test twice, the second time with some squirts of 20-50 oil into the chambers.
Note the difference.
Do we have 60 years between engine overhauls ?
I think that the oil control rings have lost their spring tension.
 
GreeCguy said:
Just got back from the family farm where I spent two days driving the ole 1950 Case model D tractor. Pulled the disc/harrow and cut up massive weeds and vines. In that two day period, Mighty D drank 10 quarts of oil (20W50). When I stopped for lunch today and let the tractor idle before shutting it down, it was smoking so bad, you could hardly see the tractor. Had to remove the spark plugs and clean them twice, (burned them clean with a blowtorch). Even so, oil pr

30psi per cylinder is mighty low.

5qts of oil in 2day's time is exorbitant! Now this is what I refer to as "Gross polluter"...

I wouldn't use it if I were you (or consider a full overhaul).

Q.
 
Originally Posted By: V8man
OVERKILL said:
Sounds like the rings are cooked. [/quote

OVERKILL, if the rings are cooked, do you think any oil additve will help?


No.

He should do a compression and a leak-down test to confirm the diagnosis and then hopefully locate some rings. He could probably re-ring with a hone pretty cheap assuming the bores are in decent shape and it doesn't need a bore job.
 
The problem is while I might be able to find a set of rings, it might be next to impossible to find a new head gasket. These motors are rather easy to rebuild (if you have the parts) as they have wet sleeves. To rebuild, you simply pull the old sleeves and replace them as well as the pistons and rings. You can literally do it in less than a day. The problem however is that they stopped making parts for these tractors in 1980 and now the only parts available are "new old stock" which is getting harder and harder to find and when you do find it, is very expensive.

I do have another "D" that I've been using for parts over the past ten years. I do have an idea on pulling the pistons and sleeves from this tractor and putting two of them on "Mighty 'D'" - but that will be a different post.

In addition, I have inherited a 1947 Case "D" that I need to start working on. It might be time to put "Mighty 'D'" out to pasture and see what this '47 will do - Kinda breaks my heart as I've been driving "Mighty 'D'" since I was five years old - that's 45 years on the same tractor - with that many years it goes from a piece of machinery to an old trusted friend.
 
Originally Posted By: Quest
GreeCguy said:
Just got back from the family farm where I spent two days driving the ole 1950 Case model D tractor. Pulled the disc/harrow and cut up massive weeds and vines. In that two day period, Mighty D drank 10 quarts of oil (20W50). When I stopped for lunch today and let the tractor idle before shutting it down, it was smoking so bad, you could hardly see the tractor. Had to remove the spark plugs and clean them twice, (burned them clean with a blowtorch). Even so, oil pr

30psi per cylinder is mighty low.

5qts of oil in 2day's time is exorbitant! Now this is what I refer to as "Gross polluter"...

I wouldn't use it if I were you (or consider a full overhaul).

Q.


Very true as driving "Mighty 'D'" is not a carbon neutral event. Brand new, it ran at 40 pounds oil pressure so after 63 years I don't consider 30 pounds all that bad.

As bad as it is for the environment, I'm actually more concerned about what the cylinder heads look like. Having to pull the plugs twice, I can only imagine what kind of gunk is building up around the valves. The truly amazing thing (at least to me), is that even with the massive amount of oil burning, she fires right up every time and still pulls strong.
 
Maybe you could have someone cut you a copper head gasket?

Or maybe you could use that copper spray on what you've got?

Is there a way to drop the crank and pistons out the bottom without locking the rings in some sort of sleeve-related purgatory?
 
It sounds crazy, but I'd buy and put a good amount of 'Restore' oil additive into a fill of straight 50-weight oil and see how it does.

I've read some darn impressive accounts of Restore 'sealing up' old engine enough that they live to fight another day.

Seriously, give it a try!
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
It sounds crazy, but I'd buy and put a good amount of 'Restore' oil additive into a fill of straight 50-weight oil and see how it does.

I've read some darn impressive accounts of Restore 'sealing up' old engine enough that they live to fight another day.

Seriously, give it a try!


How much would you add? It's a four cylinder motor with an eight quart system.
 
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