Toyota lemon issue resolved

[dja4260]

I think someone rented the Camry, bottomed it out/hit something that damaged the pan & block. Replaced the pan and returned the car with the JB weld repair.

Enterprise sold the car like they do and were completely unaware of the damage.

 

[mechanicx]

Then that's what I don't get. Why didn't whoever that did the JB weld patch job instead just take the car to a dealer to be repaired under warranty. It makes no sense that they didn't and that Toyota got out of honoring the warranty. Edit: OK so it was a type of collision. I see what they did now. I'd bet enterprise did the repair on the cheap though and not the person who rented it.

 

[bdcardinal]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Then that's what I don't get. Why didn't whoever that did the JB weld patch job instead just take the car to a dealer to be repaired under warranty. It makes no sense that they didn't and that Toyota got out of honoring the warranty. Edit: OK so it was a type of collision. I see what they did now. I'd bet enterprise did the repair on the cheap though and not the person who rented it.


Warranty does not cover collision damage. Have seen it a bunch of times at the dealer. As soon as we see signs of contact that are noted by a Field Engineer or Ford Rep the warranty repair is denied and it noted on their OASIS.

 

[mechanicx]

Yeah that's why I asked if had been some type of a collision that caused the damage. It appears it had been. I just wonder if it was the rental company or the rental driver that tried to pull a fast one with the repair. I'm guessing the rental company.

 

[ddrumman2004]

Enjoy the car! The preacher in our church just traded an 05 Jaguar for an 2011 Sonata and he is very happy with it.
The Jag needed about 6 grand in computers to get it right so he got rid of it.

His is a red color and is really nice!

 

[stephen9666]

To the OP-

I'm glad you got some kind of resolution. The whole situation sounded like a mountain of B S.

I hope the car serves you well!

 

[Propflux01]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
.....I just wonder if it was the rental company or the rental driver that tried to pull a fast one with the repair. I'm guessing the rental company.


I would say the rental driver. Didn't want to pay for his "fun" playing 'dukes of hazzerd' so he cleaned it up, J.B. welded, then returned the car to Enterprise. Just got lucky enough to hold up until the OP bought the car.

 

[bdcardinal]

I love how they still call the car a lemon when it isn't. Its title branded which means someone did something to yank the warranty. As much as I don't like Toyota they bear no blame for anything in this.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: Tim H.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
.....I just wonder if it was the rental company or the rental driver that tried to pull a fast one with the repair. I'm guessing the rental company.


I would say the rental driver. Didn't want to pay for his "fun" playing 'dukes of hazzerd' so he cleaned it up, J.B. welded, then returned the car to Enterprise. Just got lucky enough to hold up until the OP bought the car.


That is plausible. If the rental company was trying to pull a fast one they could've replaced the oil pan and cleaned up the signs of impact damage and then hauled it to the dealer asking why the vehicle is losing oil and maybe the dealer would be none the wiser or care. I still think it is plausible the rental company charged the customer who damaged it as they should have, but realizing the damage would not be covered under warranty fixed it on the cheap. It could've went either way.

 

[ltslimjim]

^And leave another person with the burden of a headache. You do shady things and you are on a bad part, I don't care who you are.

 

[mrsilv04]

Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
I love how they still call the car a lemon when it isn't. Its title branded which means someone did something to yank the warranty. As much as I don't like Toyota they bear no blame for anything in this.


+1.

It is unfair to refer to it as a "lemon Toyota", when Toyota did nothing wrong in the manufacturing of the car.

The car was screwed up after it was sold to the first owner, not when they built it.

When the Hyundai dealer bought the car at auction, if it was disclosed as "remainder of factory warranty", all they should have to do is return the car to the auction with the proof, and they should get all of their money back.

However, if it was presented at auction as "no factory warranty", and the dealer tried to sell it otherwise, that's a different story.

This is not the first time where I've heard of the first owner being an idiot and getting the warranty cancelled, and the second owner getting screwed over it...

 

[The_Jeff]

There are "enterprising" rental lots who will wait on a dent until someone DOESN'T sign up for their overpriced insurance, then ding them for the repair, then still not repair it. My wife saw it first hand.

 

[Propflux01]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
There are "enterprising" rental lots who will wait on a dent until someone DOESN'T sign up for their overpriced insurance, then ding them for the repair, then still not repair it. My wife saw it first hand.


That is why you make sure you inspect the car, with the 'enterprising' agent with you, and mark all dings, dents, scratches, etc. I do it every time I rent a car.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
^And leave another person with the burden of a headache. You do shady things and you are on a bad part, I don't care who you are.

Whom do you blame ? The Hyundai dealer that sells the accident damaged Camry or OP for returning the damaged car and get the Hyundai Sonata ?

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: mrsilv04

When the Hyundai dealer bought the car at auction, if it was disclosed as "remainder of factory warranty", all they should have to do is return the car to the auction with the proof, and they should get all of their money back.


There is usually only a very small window in which a dealer can arbitrate these things when a vehicle is bought from an auction. I think the period is < 2 weeks, and like the OP said, unless a mirror was used to inspect the engine block, no one would have noticed.

 

[urchin]

I seriously doubt that the original seller of the Camry DIDN'T know about the damage.

There are a LOT of slimy people in the used car business, that is why I will NEVER buy a used car from anyone except a person I know to have total integrity with their dealings. Of course there people are far and few in between.

The best route is to buy new as long as you are going to hold onto the vehicle for a long time.