Toyota lemon issue resolved

[dja4260]

Decided to purchase a new car through the dealer vs the used Camry option. It was the best available option for our given circumstance.

2011 Sonata GLS. Auto w/ 4081 miles. It was a dealer demo. We got the full 100k/10yr warranty.

18,500 for the car, and 2.9% financing.

Our payment with the used Camry was $220.25, and now with the new Sonata it's $226.25.

Here are the pictures, my father is satisfied and I'm happy with the purchase.

 

[DakAttack]

Congrats, Glad its been all Resolved!!

 

[NHHEMI]

You made a very wise choice. Glad it worked out for you.

Now go find a different dealer to handle your repair/warranty needs and stay away from that dealer.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Exterior styling, Sonata is much better than Camry, I also like interior of the Sonata better. Reliability and resale value are another subjects.

 

[Sayjac]

Cangrats! All things considered here, I think you made a wise choice. Looks good.

Glad things worked out and your dad is satisfied.

 

[CBR.worm]

Good choice. Stay away from the lemons.

 

[wallyuwl]

So what happened with the Camry? Obviously you no longer have it, but did they just buy it back from you in exchange for you buying this new Sonata?


As an aside... you should have just listened to me to begin with. In the original thread that got deleted, I suggested going this route (i.e.: seeing if they'd take the defective Camry back in exchange for you buying a new Sonata), but you said your dad was stuck on a (inferior) Camry and that wasn't an option.

 

[dja4260]

Originally Posted By: wallyuwl
So what happened with the Camry? Obviously you no longer have it, but did they just buy it back from you in exchange for you buying this new Sonata?


As an aside... you should have just listened to me to begin with. In the original thread that got deleted, I suggested going this route (i.e.: seeing if they'd take the defective Camry back in exchange for you buying a new Sonata), but you said your dad was stuck on a (inferior) Camry and that wasn't an option.



I have no idea what happened to the Camry. We took our plates off it and left it at the dealer as soon as we found out the issue. My father bought, and wanted a Camry. I wouldn't call the Camry "inferior", however in our circumstance this was our best option. I hope the powertrain last as long as the Camrys are known to. Time will tell.

 

[wallyuwl]

Originally Posted By: dja4260
I have no idea what happened to the Camry. We took our plates off it and left it at the dealer as soon as we found out the issue.


A little confused.

I must have missed where you detailed how you actually went about giving the Camry back to the dealer, and working out with them to buy the Sonata.

 

[needsducktape]

I think either car would service you for many years. In this case, you got a lower mileage car, for $6.25 more per month -you also have a much better power-train warranty. (10 years).

I hate to admit it (I drive a Toyota), but I think the Hyundai is a nicer looking car.

 

[HyundaiGuy]

Good move. I hope your Dad enjoys the ride.

As far as reliability and resale, you did well. Hyundai has come a long way. The other manufacturers should be very afraid. We have 2 and both cars have been excellent.

 

[flwxman]

Congrats. I believe your father (and you as well) will enjoy the Sonata much more than the Camry for many years to come!

 

[hate2work]

Good deal, glad you got it resolved.

What's up with the license plate? You said this was a demo, did someone put a personalized plate on a demo? Just curious

 

[The_Jeff]

Good outcome. Enjoy your new car.

 

[94MaxGXE]

Quote:
My father bought, and wanted a Camry.

So now you have a Camry with no plates abandoned on the dealer lot?
Did your father sign a bill of sale for this car?

Has the title been transferred? Does he have plates for it?
Quote:
Our payment with the used Camry was $220.25,
Does he have a loan on it?

This is confusing, please update us.........

 

[NHHEMI]

The OP went over this in the other thread( 2 of them actually ). If you didn't follow it along from the start you missed it. Please don't make the poor guy relive it all again.

They bought a used Camry from a dealer that had damage to the block where it met the oil pan that someone had tried to fix with JB Weld. As I recall it needed a new block to the tune of $3500 to fix. Toyota knew about it and had voided the warranty. The OP and his Dad were unaware of this at purchase and fought with the Hyundai dealer to make it right. Hyundai dealer tried to get them to take 2 different vehicles to repalce the Camry. At least one was a Lemon Law buy back. Just a mess.

They finally got the dealer to take the Camry back and they now have the new Hyundai for $6 more p/month. You are now caught up.

 

[dja4260]

Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
The OP went over this in the other thread( 2 of them actually ). If you didn't follow it along from the start you missed it. Please don't make the poor guy relive it all again.

They bought a used Camry from a dealer that had damage to the block where it met the oil pan that someone had tried to fix with JB Weld. As I recall it needed a new block to the tune of $3500 to fix. Toyota knew about it and had voided the warranty. The OP and his Dad were unaware of this at purchase and fought with the Hyundai dealer to make it right. Hyundai dealer tried to get them to take 2 different vehicles to repalce the Camry. At least one was a Lemon Law buy back. Just a mess.

They finally got the dealer to take the Camry back and they now have the new Hyundai for $6 more p/month. You are now caught up.


Thank you!

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: dja4260
I have no idea what happened to the Camry. We took our plates off it and left it at the dealer as soon as we found out the issue. My father bought, and wanted a Camry. I wouldn't call the Camry "inferior", however in our circumstance this was our best option. I hope the powertrain last as long as the Camrys are known to. Time will tell.


I wouldn't exactly call the Camry "inferior" either, but for some reason people like to complain about things they don't even have. Like posting stuff about a computer company you'll never buy from anyway...

I'm glad this all worked out in the end. He didn't get the car he was after, but I feel certain the Sonata will treat him just as well as an unmolested Camry would have. As long as he likes the way it drives and the way it rides, it should be fine. I don't think there's a whole heckuva lot of difference these days in mechanical reliability anymore. Any of the major brands will suit well.

I would follow earlier advice and find a different dealer for service or repairs on the new Sonata. It sounds like that dealer with whom you've been working doesn't deserve anyone's business.

 

[mechanicx]

What I wondered about is how did the Camry's block get damaged and who and why did they try to repair it with JB Weld when it should've been under warranty being a new car. And especially how did Toyota manage to void the warranty instead of fixing the issue right? Maybe the Camry was in some kind of collision. I guess we'll never know but the whole thing seems kind of mysterious.

 

[dja4260]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
What I wondered about is how did the Camry's block get damaged and who and why did they try to repair it with JB Weld when it should've been under warranty being a new car. And especially how did Toyota manage to void the warranty instead of fixing the issue right? Maybe the Camry was in some kind of collision. I guess we'll never know but the whole thing seems kind of mysterious.


The toyota was a enterprise rental car. The carfax didn't didn't show any collision and we weren't able to find any signs of damage or new sheet metal. All the lines, gaps, etc were perfect. Obviously we missed the chipped block & repair. In order to see it it had to be on a hoist with a mirror.