Toyota 2AR-FE 2.5L: just use OEM filter?

[Elkins45]

This engine uses the equivalent of a Fram 9937 cartridge filter. My inkling is to buy the OEM filters when Toyota has their periodic sales and not worry about it. This vehicle won’t be my daily driver so it’s likely the oil will age out between changes before it gets used up.

The Super Tech version is a bit cheaper than OEM and it has end caps while the OEM is open ended and is $1-2 more expensive. I figure end caps must not matter or Toyota would have designed their filter to include them. I can’t remember if the Fram has end caps or not.

 

[Hootbro]

I am confused, what is the problem that needs solving here?

 

[Elkins45]

I am confused, what is the problem that needs solving here?

No problem, I’m simply asking if there’s any reason not to just use the OEM filter?

 

[dippschtick]

Have been using the OEM filters on my sons 2013 Camry, currently around 200k miles.
So yes, just use the OEM and not worry about it.

 

[Hootbro]

Is there any reason not to just use the OEM filter?

Nothing wrong with using OEM, especially if the OCI is going to age out before mileage is met.

 

[RallyXaDSM]

I'd have no qualms using an OEM Toyota cartridge. There have been some recent issues with their spin-on filters being defective right out of the packaging, and you can't know if one is affected unless you open it up (and thus, can no longer use it). You don't have that issue with the cartridge type as it's all exposed and easy to look over for defects before installing.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I love Toyota oil filters. You could do a lot worse.

 

[GW.]

Cartridge should be good. As mentioned the Toyota OEM canister filters have been slipping lately quality wise.

 

[supton]

A decade ago or so I used a Supertech on my 2AR-FE. I was doing 10k OCI's at the time and when I took it out, the o-ring had gone square. It was sealing but there was not resistance to turning the housing out. For a 5k OCI it might be fine. Otherwise, you might be better off reusing the OEM o-ring!

I haven't bought filters in a bit but I was buying a case at time off ebay. Prices have gone up but I think a few dealerships have set up shop and the prices were ok. Not sure what they are like in the dealership, maybe not so bad? I have seen them at Walmart at times.

 

[Fair enough]

The pleats stay close to the center tube on the oe as they should. Some aftermarket with end caps have a space. The oe fits correctly too. Onthe TRD filters made by Champ Toyota used to sell they had a center tube on the cartridge, so there were two center tubes.

 

[User_19876]

We simply use the YZZA1 in my wife’s 2AR-FXE. They are cheap from Serra of Decatur when they’re having a sale. None of the other options offer enough of a savings to consider not using the OEM. The SuperTech didn’t look very well manufactured.

I’m pretty sure the pleat ends are glued on the Toyota filters. I can’t slip a knife tip in the apparent gap.

As someone mentioned above, some used Toyota filters seem unreasonably friable. I changed out a YZZA5 today in my 4Runner. It wouldn’t collapse except with a ridiculous about of pressure/squeezing. This was one of the newer “orange” filters. I’m about to post up on the other forum.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I’m pretty sure the pleat ends are glued on the Toyota filters. I can’t slip a knife tip in the apparent gap.

Yes, every pleat end should be glued shut, otherwise it would leak unfiltered oil like a sieve.

 

[iCurious]

Been using SuperTech 9972 - Made in USA. Cheaper than OE.

 

[Fair enough]

Whip City cut a Toyota filter open for today, the media looks good. The 15 year old thing needs to be put to rest, it’s not necessarily the same as before. Or maybe stop using it after 10 more years, that should be enough doubtful information.

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Send some Toyota filters out for an official ISO 4548-12 test ... bet it's still inefficient media regardless of what it "looks like" under 10x magnification. Can't tell actual efficiency from looking at the media.

 

[Fair enough]

^^^ Send some Toyota filters out for an official ISO 4548-12 test ... bet it's still inefficient media regardless of what it "looks like" under 10x magnification. Can't tell actual efficiency from looking at the media.

He says 100x. The idea is look for light spots and compare to others.
So you do the tests since you believe in them. I’m not the one claiming 50%@20 microns, you are. I didn’t claim any numbers at all, there aren’t any in this decade.

 

[ZeeOSix]

He says 100x. The idea is look for light spots and compare to others.
So you do the tests since you believe in them. I’m not the one claiming 50%@20 microns, you are. I didn’t claim any numbers at all, there aren’t any in this decade.

So you think the "media looks great", and make a statement "The 15 year old thing needs to be put to rest, it’s not necessarily the same as before", (post 15) yet all you have is a magnified image of the media. You obviously think they are better efficiency than before if making statements like that. So up to you to prove the efficiency is better now. Even those who believe the BR test ranking shows them to be low on the scale.

 

[GRjdm]

Toyota OEM Denso filters are very affordable and has a good track record for long engine service life.
I used to buy Purolator and Napa/WIX filters before they got bought by MANN+HUMMEL. But now buying OEM filters directly from local dealership to avoid counterfeits being sold online