Took delivery of my first EV

Cujet said:
I think the 2024 M50 battery uses 2170 cells, is about 82-85KWH and weighs about 1300 pounds. That's similar to a Model 3.

From what I read, some of the 2025's, the Neue Klasse models will use BMW's new 46mm battery cell in varying heights, from 90mm to 120mm.
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I was going to get a ‘25. I was told this is a mid year change, they had ‘25s on the lot. The only diff from i4 24 to 25 right now is lazer rear lights, diff shaped internal front lights (housings and shape on both ends are unchanged) and a flat bottomed steering wheel.

Honestly, I will only lease an EV for now, it’s the way to go. A few years from now, these cars will be better in every way. I look at these cars like a phone.
 
UncleDave said:
Congrats to the OP on the spiffy new ride.

What's the repair comment based on?

The tesla has less components, wiring, hoses, and a single computer.

The BMW is not packaged particularly well which is part of the reason it doesn't have a frunk.

So far BMW is unique in using SSM brushed motors, BMW claims an a long 15 year life or 300K KM, on the brushes but at some point this is going to need work other EV's will not. Thats if the battery makes it that far/ long.
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The repair comment is based on many Tesla owners having issues with getting regular repair parts. Remember Tesla isn't a niche player any longer.
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I was hit by a 3rd party late in Dec 2023 into my offside front, rendering my Y undrivable. It needed a lot of spare parts, but not a write off.

The insurance company have had the car in with repair centre since then, who have repeated told me they have a load of Tesla's in, awaiting parts including mine.

Over 4 months later, the repairers are still awaiting a front lower axle arm and the bumper absorber, with no firm delivery dates. Understandably they cant start repairs until all parts are with them."
Reuters had a dandy article at the end of 2023. It isn't the first time Tesla swept stuff under the carpet.
"Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective".
This is happening to Cybertruck owners as well, just blame the customer.
There are hundreds of pages where minor damage causes excessive wait times for repairs when owning a Tesla. Not just weeks but months if it can even be repaired.
 
97prizm said:
The repair comment is based on many Tesla owners having issues with getting regular repair parts. Remember Tesla isn't a niche player any longer.
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I was hit by a 3rd party late in Dec 2023 into my offside front, rendering my Y undrivable. It needed a lot of spare parts, but not a write off.

The insurance company have had the car in with repair centre since then, who have repeated told me they have a load of Tesla's in, awaiting parts including mine.

Over 4 months later, the repairers are still awaiting a front lower axle arm and the bumper absorber, with no firm delivery dates. Understandably they cant start repairs until all parts are with them."
Reuters had a dandy article at the end of 2023. It isn't the first time Tesla swept stuff under the carpet.
"Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective".
This is happening to Cybertruck owners as well, just blame the customer.
There are hundreds of pages where minor damage causes excessive wait times for repairs when owning a Tesla. Not just weeks but months if it can even be repaired.
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Ok got it

The implication is the customer wont be able to get parts for the tesla vs. the BMW. Its not an ease of repair in fixing something broken.

Your support for this position is guys on forums complaining about parts availability, specifically this copied thread from about 2 years ago.
 
slo town said:
I'm curious and am not throwing stones. Given the accelerator behavior you described, how do you drive the car fast on, say, a twisty mountain road? It seems like it would be virtually impossible to smoothly modulate the brakes when entering a corner.

Scott
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It's a bit difficult to explain without trying it. It's not aggressive in the sense of hard braking letting off the throttle, it'll just slow you quicker than driveline drag on an ICE vehicle. If you were hustling a car through a canyon road you'd still transition to using the physical brakes if you're trying to push the car hard.

I definitely wouldn't recommend jumping in an EV with regenerative braking and going straight into hustling it hard through a mountain pass right away. I'd get at least a couple of days to fully get comfortable with one pedal. That said if I really was going to push it for an extended period of time, I'd put my car in track mode which limits regen to about the level of a standard car's driveline drag to reduce heating the battery with lots of regen and just use the friction brakes. It's kind of fun to put it in this mode anyway because you can hear the coolers ramp the fans up and it sounds like something is happening. That reminds me because a lot of people say they need the noise from an engine to have fun in a car. EVs make noise when pushed and Tesla doesn't inject fake noise in the cabin. There's definitely a lot more going on sound wise than I expected in a Model Y Performance. It's like you can hear the power transfer through the inverters at full throttle.
 
BISCUT said:
Beautiful car brotha! Despite the red interior. Don't you know black on black is bestest? Please report back with any issues.
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There’s no fun with black on black, it’s the commonest. 😂

Will report. Ty bud. 👍
 
Gary_E said:
I was going to get a ‘25. I was told this is a mid year change, they had ‘25s on the lot. The only diff from i4 24 to 25 right now is lazer rear lights, diff shaped internal front lights (housings and shape on both ends are unchanged) and a flat bottomed steering wheel.

Honestly, I will only lease an EV for now, it’s the way to go. A few years from now, these cars will be better in every way. I look at these cars like a phone.
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Sorry, I did not finish my post as I had to run.

1) Ultra nice car, congrats, love it.
2) I'd much rather have the 2170 cells right now. They are known to be excellent.
3) Please follow up with range and performance thoughts once you get a few miles on it.
 
Cujet said:
Sorry, I did not finish my post as I had to run.

1) Ultra nice car, congrats, love it.
2) I'd much rather have the 2170 cells right now. They are known to be excellent.
3) Please follow up with range and performance thoughts once you get a few miles on it.
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Thanks for the battery info.

I’ll follow up in the future. I’ve charged it once, easy peasy. Cost to have my garage set up with the included box was 900 dollars.

Performance is disgusting. 795 Nm of torque, and all wheel drive. I can hit a sub 4 second 0-60 as I’m sipping on my morning latte 😂.

I’ve mentioned the one pedal acclimation, but another is there no transmission. Power is always “right now”, no downshifting or gear hunting. It’s nice.

I’ll follow up on how my electric bill changes after 30 days. This car will almost exclusively be driven in the city.
 
UncleDave said:
Congrats to the OP on the spiffy new ride.

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So far BMW is unique in using SSM brushed motors, BMW claims an a long 15 year life or 300K KM, on the brushes but at some point this is going to need work other EV's will not. Thats if the battery makes it that far/ long.
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Im not so sure of that. BMW claims 300K and 15 years. That sounds good to me.
I think that is a little "out there" to say other makers will not need work. As an example very few Tesla's report in at 300k miles and the few that do I thought I have read about motor replacements. One thing for sure they are no longer under warranty. I suspect by that time most EV are thrown away like a disposable lighter, between motors and batteries ... well, no different than gasoline models.
 
alarmguy said:
Im not so sure of that. BMW claims 300K and 15 years. That sounds good to me.
I think that is a little "out there" to say other makers will not need work. As an example very few Tesla's report in at 300k miles and the few that do I thought I have read about motor replacements. One thing for sure they are no longer under warranty. I suspect by that time most EV are thrown away like a disposable lighter, between motors and batteries ... well, no different than gasoline models.
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Most will be thrown away when the latest greatest comes out. Not too long from now, there will be an “option” to have a traditional steering wheel so you can pretend to drive, but the car will still take over if it senses an unsafe situation. It will be a throw-back, much like manual transmissions now.
 
Gary_E said:
Thanks for the battery info.

I’ll follow up in the future. I’ve charged it once, easy peasy. Cost to have my garage set up with the included box was 900 dollars.

Performance is disgusting. 795 Nm of torque, and all wheel drive. I can hit a sub 4 second 0-60 as I’m sipping on my morning latte 😂.

I’ve mentioned the one pedal acclimation, but another is there no transmission. Power is always “right now”, no downshifting or gear hunting. It’s nice.

I’ll follow up on how my electric bill changes after 30 days. This car will almost exclusively be driven in the city.
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Welcome to the club. If something happened to my car, I would order another tomorrow.
 
97prizm said:
The repair comment is based on many Tesla owners having issues with getting regular repair parts. Remember Tesla isn't a niche player any longer.
"
I was hit by a 3rd party late in Dec 2023 into my offside front, rendering my Y undrivable. It needed a lot of spare parts, but not a write off.

The insurance company have had the car in with repair centre since then, who have repeated told me they have a load of Tesla's in, awaiting parts including mine.

Over 4 months later, the repairers are still awaiting a front lower axle arm and the bumper absorber, with no firm delivery dates. Understandably they cant start repairs until all parts are with them."
Reuters had a dandy article at the end of 2023. It isn't the first time Tesla swept stuff under the carpet.
"Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective".
This is happening to Cybertruck owners as well, just blame the customer.
There are hundreds of pages where minor damage causes excessive wait times for repairs when owning a Tesla. Not just weeks but months if it can even be repaired.
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I never knew you had a Model Y... Cool. Sorry about your parts problem.
 
Gary_E said:
I was going to get a ‘25. I was told this is a mid year change, they had ‘25s on the lot. The only diff from i4 24 to 25 right now is lazer rear lights, diff shaped internal front lights (housings and shape on both ends are unchanged) and a flat bottomed steering wheel.

Honestly, I will only lease an EV for now, it’s the way to go. A few years from now, these cars will be better in every way. I look at these cars like a phone.
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I keep my phones for 5-10 years. Same as my goal for my car, for sure.
 
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