Took delivery of my first EV

He doesn't, he's cut and pasting stuff. Notice the spelling and wording.... repair centre... the repairers are awaiting parts...

Just more 97prism Tesla hate.
Ahh Tesla people. It's not hate. The op mentioned going with a bmw. I responded you're more likely to get it fixed and quicker than a Tesla. I then showed multiple instances where Tesla owners posted their frustration with the excessive lengthy repair times. This isn't hate, get it straight. This is a WELL documented issue with Tesla in general, not my fault.
 
I keep my phones for 5-10 years. Same as my goal for my car, for sure.

I guess I’m a typical consumer, I want the newest stuff. I have no intention of ever “owning” a modern car.
 
I guess I’m a typical consumer, I want the newest stuff. I have no intention of ever “owning” a modern car.
If something meets my needs, I simply keep it. Sometimes it takes me a while to find that item within a genre, but when I do, that's that until it 1) fails to meet my needs, or b) becomes a liability/breaks significantly, etc
 
If something meets my needs, I simply keep it. Sometimes it takes me a while to find that item within a genre, but when I do, that's that until it 1) fails to meet my needs, or b) becomes a liability/breaks significantly, etc

No judgement here, you do you. I just like new stuff.
 
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Im not so sure of that. BMW claims 300K and 15 years. That sounds good to me.
I think that is a little "out there" to say other makers will not need work. As an example very few Tesla's report in at 300k miles and the few that do I thought I have read about motor replacements. One thing for sure they are no longer under warranty. I suspect by that time most EV are thrown away like a disposable lighter, between motors and batteries ... well, no different than gasoline models.

It's not 300K miles - is 300K Kilometers or 186K.

Still a long way no doubt, but it's a maintenance item that others do not have.
While it's true the "million mile" model S needed a bunch of motor replacements that does not seem to be the case for later models.

The claim was that the BMW would be easier fix years from now.

I did not say or mean to insinuate others wont need work, Im pointing out they wont need this, and that BMW is different in this area.
 
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It's not 300K miles - is 300K Kilometers or 186K.

Still along way no doubt, but its a maintenance item that others do not have.
While its true the "million mile" model S needed a bunch of motor replacements that does not seem to be the case for later models.

The claim was that the BMW would be easier fix years from now.

I did not say or mean to insinuate others wont need work, Im pointing out they wont need this, and that BMW is different in this area.
Sounds good, thanks for the kilometer correction.
AS far as the million mile model though. True it doesnt seem to be the case for later models but we wont know until the later models are old.
I do agree that I cant imagine a BMW easier to fix or any claim that any model OR brand would be easier to fix. We are WAY too new in the EV world to know the track record of all these models and brands hitting the marketplace.

I do expect EVs to be more reliable than gas models, but who knows until we know. I have to admit that I never remember having an issue with a gas model that wasnt reasonably easy to fix and priced accordingly. Actually the last model to need a repair was a 2008 Durango that I owned and that was under $1000 when it had 140,000 miles on it.

Like computers, I cant help wonder if all these electronics will hold up in the long run, that goes for gasoline and electric. My wife's new 2025 gas equinox is completely electronic and has so much stuff packed into it I cant help but be concerned.
She is having a ball with it as we both love electronics so nice to see her so happy but we are still learning the vehicle at 600 miles on it.
Last night she was watching you tube on it. Needed to take it on a trip only a few days old and learned much on the way.
Time will tell, I cant help but be skeptical.
 
Sounds good, thanks for the kilometer correction.
AS far as the million mile model though. True it doesnt seem to be the case for later models but we wont know until the later models are old.
I do agree that I cant imagine a BMW easier to fix or any claim that any model OR brand would be easier to fix. We are WAY too new in the EV world to know the track record of all these models and brands hitting the marketplace.

I do expect EVs to be more reliable than gas models, but who knows until we know. I have to admit that I never remember having an issue with a gas model that wasnt reasonably easy to fix and priced accordingly. Actually the last model to need a repair was a 2008 Durango that I owned and that was under $1000 when it had 140,000 miles on it.

Like computers, I cant help wonder if all these electronics will hold up in the long run, that goes for gasoline and electric. My wife's new 2025 gas equinox is completely electronic and has so much stuff packed into it I cant help but be concerned.
She is having a ball with it as we both love electronics so nice to see her so happy but we are still learning the vehicle at 600 miles on it.
Last night she was watching you tube on it. Needed to take it on a trip only a few days old and learned much on the way.
Time will tell, I cant help but be skeptical.

Mercedes seems to have trouble with electronics after 10 years (bosses AMG's) but none of my Japanese vehicles have, or our company GM vehicles. (knocking on wood)

Hopefully your shiny new Equinox (?) wont either, and you'll be able to keep the maps updated and current.

Congrats one the new ride !
 
Sounds good, thanks for the kilometer correction.
AS far as the million mile model though. True it doesnt seem to be the case for later models but we wont know until the later models are old.
I do agree that I cant imagine a BMW easier to fix or any claim that any model OR brand would be easier to fix. We are WAY too new in the EV world to know the track record of all these models and brands hitting the marketplace.

I do expect EVs to be more reliable than gas models, but who knows until we know. I have to admit that I never remember having an issue with a gas model that wasnt reasonably easy to fix and priced accordingly. Actually the last model to need a repair was a 2008 Durango that I owned and that was under $1000 when it had 140,000 miles on it.

Like computers, I cant help wonder if all these electronics will hold up in the long run, that goes for gasoline and electric. My wife's new 2025 gas equinox is completely electronic and has so much stuff packed into it I cant help but be concerned.
She is having a ball with it as we both love electronics so nice to see her so happy but we are still learning the vehicle at 600 miles on it.
Last night she was watching you tube on it. Needed to take it on a trip only a few days old and learned much on the way.
Time will tell, I cant help but be skeptical.
I'd say the big benefit for me is the long powertrain warranties. I wouldn't buy any EV with a 5 year 60k mile powertrain warranty like some ICE vehicles have. Nothing is likely to happen, but I'm not interested in chancing it.
 
What is the point of always buying something new? I buy stuff that stays relevant for its lifecycle.
I say the same thing and still ended up trading every 5-6 years on average. I did daily drive my GTO for 8 years, but that's the longest I've kept a car. I think that's going to change this time though. There's just no point in it and when I get bored modifying stuff all these performance EVs are faster than anything I've ever built. What am I going to do? Get one that runs 0-60 in under 3 seconds? What's that going to give me over my current car? Nothing.

Kind of happy to hit a point where it just doesn't appeal to me to keep doing that. I'm in full agreement these days with your line of thinking. I'm doing that with all electronics these days. I've had my iPhone for more than 2 years and I usually trade up at the 21 month point when most providers will give you a deal to trade up. Tech is so good these days it just doesn't matter.
 
I say the same thing and still ended up trading every 5-6 years on average. I did daily drive my GTO for 8 years, but that's the longest I've kept a car. I think that's going to change this time though. There's just no point in it and when I get bored modifying stuff all these performance EVs are faster than anything I've ever built. What am I going to do? Get one that runs 0-60 in under 3 seconds? What's that going to give me over my current car? Nothing.

Kind of happy to hit a point where it just doesn't appeal to me to keep doing that. I'm in full agreement these days with your line of thinking. I'm doing that with all electronics these days. I've had my iPhone for more than 2 years and I usually trade up at the 21 month point when most providers will give you a deal to trade up. Tech is so good these days it just doesn't matter.
My 2019 cx5 would still be top of its segment and price point. Vented seats, heated seats, HUD, 27mpg lifetime avg, 0-60 mid 6s, good awd, etc. Yes I chose to upgrade out of the segment, but it's still a class leader. I suspect my ev6 GT will be similar. Sure, a bit less hp, range, ccs vs nacs, but whatever, that's not worth $40k to me to swap into. Now when we get solid state, etc that will be truly another game.
 
So it's literally just "I want the VIN to be a current year VIN"? I mean, I can respect that, it's just I've rarely encountered that before except in high end brokers etc who require the latest due to image.

I would not respect that vin example lol.

For me, image has nothing to do with it. I get bored, and simply want to try something new. A side benefit is gaining newer tech, more efficiency, changing brand if I don’t like the service, etc.
 
I would not respect that vin example lol.

For me, image has nothing to do with it. I get bored, and simply want to try something new. A side benefit is gaining newer tech, more efficiency, changing brand if I don’t like the service, etc.
Gary, nothing wrong with that if you can afford it. I knew someone that changed cars almost like underwear even though he couldn't afford it. He was up to his eyeballs in debt, bankruptcies, blah blah. But he always found a reason to justify it...

I'm totally different. I only bought one brand new vehicle in my life and that was a work van that I couldn't find used at the time. When I buy a vehicle I drive it till it does not work any more and then I give it away because it has no value left. I've never traded in a vehicle.

We are all different, and personally I like that people trade in their new-ish vehicles so I can have a go at them. I considered buying Jeff's Model 3 when he got his new one but I didn't need it right then. In a few years I'll pick one up and join the electric world. Maybe by then the Model 2 will be out....
 
I would not respect that vin example lol.

For me, image has nothing to do with it. I get bored, and simply want to try something new. A side benefit is gaining newer tech, more efficiency, changing brand if I don’t like the service, etc.
Same. Shiny things are fun. I can’t say much since my oldest vehicle is only two years old, but the EV world has me thinking otherwise for the future. We’ll see if I follow through. My wife and I discussed buying a third EV in a few years, but the idea was to gift my daughter the Model 3 at the time, so it’s not really replacing a car. That’ll be my loophole. 😂
 
It's a bit difficult to explain without trying it. It's not aggressive in the sense of hard braking letting off the throttle, it'll just slow you quicker than driveline drag on an ICE vehicle. If you were hustling a car through a canyon road you'd still transition to using the physical brakes if you're trying to push the car hard.

I definitely wouldn't recommend jumping in an EV with regenerative braking and going straight into hustling it hard through a mountain pass right away. I'd get at least a couple of days to fully get comfortable with one pedal. That said if I really was going to push it for an extended period of time, I'd put my car in track mode which limits regen to about the level of a standard car's driveline drag to reduce heating the battery with lots of regen and just use the friction brakes. It's kind of fun to put it in this mode anyway because you can hear the coolers ramp the fans up and it sounds like something is happening. That reminds me because a lot of people say they need the noise from an engine to have fun in a car. EVs make noise when pushed and Tesla doesn't inject fake noise in the cabin. There's definitely a lot more going on sound wise than I expected in a Model Y Performance. It's like you can hear the power transfer through the inverters at full throttle.

@slo town

I’ll add this - it’s simply like driving a stick in a lower gear with the rpms up, as one would while deliciously carving corners. I found it rather intuitive when a friend put me at the wheel of his Tesla. It took a minute to change my reflex to lift quickly off the throttle to grab the other pedal - but once I began to recall that wasn’t necessary, I found it extremely effective at speed control for technical moves like matching speeds and gaps for rush-hour merge, etc.
 
The point of buying new stuff? Well, there are a lot of leases sold, and some people buy and then keep short term.
Each to his/her own. Sure it gets some people into financial trouble, others can afford it.

All good.
 
If something meets my needs, I simply keep it. Sometimes it takes me a while to find that item within a genre, but when I do, that's that until it 1) fails to meet my needs, or b) becomes a liability/breaks significantly, etc
I hear that. My Samsung Galaxy S8 edge plus battery is just about worn out. Had my phone for ever, used to trade in every 18 months when it was Sprint.
 
I drove the Tesla Y Performance, really wanted to go that route as I am an Elon Musk fan. Tesla’s are super popular, and for good reason, but I wanted something a bit different and with a nicer interior. I have had several BMWs in the past, so I’m familiar with the idrive, so went this route.

I’m still getting used to the one pedal driving.

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Congrats, an amazing looking vehicle. ENJOY!
 
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