Ahh Tesla people. It's not hate. The op mentioned going with a bmw. I responded you're more likely to get it fixed and quicker than a Tesla. I then showed multiple instances where Tesla owners posted their frustration with the excessive lengthy repair times. This isn't hate, get it straight. This is a WELL documented issue with Tesla in general, not my fault.
Took delivery of my first EV
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If something meets my needs, I simply keep it. Sometimes it takes me a while to find that item within a genre, but when I do, that's that until it 1) fails to meet my needs, or b) becomes a liability/breaks significantly, etc
It's not 300K miles - is 300K Kilometers or 186K.
Still a long way no doubt, but it's a maintenance item that others do not have.
While it's true the "million mile" model S needed a bunch of motor replacements that does not seem to be the case for later models.
The claim was that the BMW would be easier fix years from now.
I did not say or mean to insinuate others wont need work, Im pointing out they wont need this, and that BMW is different in this area.
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Sounds good, thanks for the kilometer correction.
AS far as the million mile model though. True it doesnt seem to be the case for later models but we wont know until the later models are old.
I do agree that I cant imagine a BMW easier to fix or any claim that any model OR brand would be easier to fix. We are WAY too new in the EV world to know the track record of all these models and brands hitting the marketplace.
I do expect EVs to be more reliable than gas models, but who knows until we know. I have to admit that I never remember having an issue with a gas model that wasnt reasonably easy to fix and priced accordingly. Actually the last model to need a repair was a 2008 Durango that I owned and that was under $1000 when it had 140,000 miles on it.
Like computers, I cant help wonder if all these electronics will hold up in the long run, that goes for gasoline and electric. My wife's new 2025 gas equinox is completely electronic and has so much stuff packed into it I cant help but be concerned.
She is having a ball with it as we both love electronics so nice to see her so happy but we are still learning the vehicle at 600 miles on it.
Last night she was watching you tube on it. Needed to take it on a trip only a few days old and learned much on the way.
Time will tell, I cant help but be skeptical.
Mercedes seems to have trouble with electronics after 10 years (bosses AMG's) but none of my Japanese vehicles have, or our company GM vehicles. (knocking on wood)
Hopefully your shiny new Equinox (?) wont either, and you'll be able to keep the maps updated and current.
Congrats one the new ride !
I'd say the big benefit for me is the long powertrain warranties. I wouldn't buy any EV with a 5 year 60k mile powertrain warranty like some ICE vehicles have. Nothing is likely to happen, but I'm not interested in chancing it.
What is the point of always buying something new? I buy stuff that stays relevant for its lifecycle.
I say the same thing and still ended up trading every 5-6 years on average. I did daily drive my GTO for 8 years, but that's the longest I've kept a car. I think that's going to change this time though. There's just no point in it and when I get bored modifying stuff all these performance EVs are faster than anything I've ever built. What am I going to do? Get one that runs 0-60 in under 3 seconds? What's that going to give me over my current car? Nothing.
Kind of happy to hit a point where it just doesn't appeal to me to keep doing that. I'm in full agreement these days with your line of thinking. I'm doing that with all electronics these days. I've had my iPhone for more than 2 years and I usually trade up at the 21 month point when most providers will give you a deal to trade up. Tech is so good these days it just doesn't matter.
My 2019 cx5 would still be top of its segment and price point. Vented seats, heated seats, HUD, 27mpg lifetime avg, 0-60 mid 6s, good awd, etc. Yes I chose to upgrade out of the segment, but it's still a class leader. I suspect my ev6 GT will be similar. Sure, a bit less hp, range, ccs vs nacs, but whatever, that's not worth $40k to me to swap into. Now when we get solid state, etc that will be truly another game.
So it's literally just "I want the VIN to be a current year VIN"? I mean, I can respect that, it's just I've rarely encountered that before except in high end brokers etc who require the latest due to image.
Gary, nothing wrong with that if you can afford it. I knew someone that changed cars almost like underwear even though he couldn't afford it. He was up to his eyeballs in debt, bankruptcies, blah blah. But he always found a reason to justify it...
I'm totally different. I only bought one brand new vehicle in my life and that was a work van that I couldn't find used at the time. When I buy a vehicle I drive it till it does not work any more and then I give it away because it has no value left. I've never traded in a vehicle.
We are all different, and personally I like that people trade in their new-ish vehicles so I can have a go at them. I considered buying Jeff's Model 3 when he got his new one but I didn't need it right then. In a few years I'll pick one up and join the electric world. Maybe by then the Model 2 will be out....
Same. Shiny things are fun. I can’t say much since my oldest vehicle is only two years old, but the EV world has me thinking otherwise for the future. We’ll see if I follow through. My wife and I discussed buying a third EV in a few years, but the idea was to gift my daughter the Model 3 at the time, so it’s not really replacing a car. That’ll be my loophole.
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I’ll add this - it’s simply like driving a stick in a lower gear with the rpms up, as one would while deliciously carving corners. I found it rather intuitive when a friend put me at the wheel of his Tesla. It took a minute to change my reflex to lift quickly off the throttle to grab the other pedal - but once I began to recall that wasn’t necessary, I found it extremely effective at speed control for technical moves like matching speeds and gaps for rush-hour merge, etc.
The point of buying new stuff? Well, there are a lot of leases sold, and some people buy and then keep short term.
Each to his/her own. Sure it gets some people into financial trouble, others can afford it.
All good.
Each to his/her own. Sure it gets some people into financial trouble, others can afford it.
All good.
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Congrats, an amazing looking vehicle. ENJOY!