Tire recommendation

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Olas
If your ABS kicks in your tyres aren't good enough.
If your ABS doesn't kick in your brakes aren't good enough.


That doesn't make an ounce of sense.

Olas was probably talking about panic braking. In that context, it makes plenty of sense to me.

ABS engagement = traction has run out = tires are the limiting factor
No ABS engagement = more traction available = brakes are the limiting factor

 

[53' Stude]

I decided on some Firestone FR710's at $70~ per tire delivered and I can install them after work saving me environmental fee, and other b.s.

 

[Blueskies123]

Check or subscribe to Consumer Reports

 

[Vuflanovsky]

Buy what you settle on after researching different tires. My experience is that people will have different definitions of "cheap tires" but your parameters involving performance, comfort, tread life, etc. are what's important.

Sometimes, I haven't found Tire Rack reviews to be particularly valuable other than giving you a general sense of the tire. Unless you have a BMW 3 series or whatever their typical test mule is, there's a good possibility that "all things being equal" won't be...so sometimes a Camry forum or friends with the same car is just as valuable if not more so.

 

[Traction]

Originally Posted By: car51
I decided on some Firestone FR710's at $70~ per tire delivered and I can install them after work saving me environmental fee, and other b.s.

Well that would be my last choice for a tire. I'm running Cooper V-rated CS5's on my 2012 Camry as a 3 season tire, and they are a great tire for the money, plus they currently have a $70 rebate. I've had 5 Camry's since 1990, and they need a V-rated tire to make them drive the best. I know that sounds strange, but it's true, that it's all about where the rubber meets the road.

 

[53' Stude]

Well V rated tire means over 100 mph. Sorry, I don't hit 100 mph ever. I'm still debating on tires actually. I'm not rich either; more like borderline poor. Glad to see everyone here thinks I'm made of money recommending "high end" tires. I don't have $400-500 out door for tires mounting and [censored] disposal stuff either.

If I can save hundreds doing them myself at work I can and will

 

[d00df00d]

Hey, if you're just doing what you gotta do, you don't owe anyone an explanation.

FYI, those high-end tires aren't as pricey in the long run as they seem. If you average out the price difference over the time you'll own the tires, and compare that to your normal running costs, the extra cost per mile for the better tire is pretty minimal -- well worth it for the benefits (safety, construction, traction, etc.). If you absolutely positively cannot find the extra money up front, then get what you can afford. But if you can find a way to do it, you'll be glad you did.

On speed rating: V is actually for 149+ MPH, so apparently it's even further beyond the range where you drive. Still, if you have a choice of speed ratings (i.e. 2 versions of the same tire with different ratings), it's usually best to go for the higher one because the tire will be built better. But if you don't have that option, just make sure it's rated well above your fastest speed and you'll be fine.

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Hey, if you're just doing what you gotta do, you don't owe anyone an explanation.

On speed rating: V is actually for 149+ MPH, so apparently it's even further beyond the range where you drive. Still, if you have a choice of speed ratings (i.e. 2 versions of the same tire with different ratings), it's usually best to go for the higher one because the tire will be built better. But if you don't have that option, just make sure it's rated well above your fastest speed and you'll be fine.


I'm not trying to be a d*** it's just I won't ever hit 100mph. At work, if my boss can't get a 93S let's say, he will get a 94T tire or you get the idea

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Originally Posted By: car51
Well V rated tire means over 100 mph. Sorry, I don't hit 100 mph ever. I'm still debating on tires actually. I'm not rich either; more like borderline poor. Glad to see everyone here thinks I'm made of money recommending "high end" tires. I don't have $400-500 out door for tires mounting and [censored] disposal stuff either.

If I can save hundreds doing them myself at work I can and will


Please accept my apologies

I thought you had more money than you do because of having two sets of wheels and a relatively new car, and you did say you were considering Michelin.

Also, it's cool that you can do the tires yourself! The Cooper CS5 Ultra is a popular tire on here, and the DT/DTD rebates make it a great deal when they run their promos.

 

[53' Stude]

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: car51
Well V rated tire means over 100 mph. Sorry, I don't hit 100 mph ever. I'm still debating on tires actually. I'm not rich either; more like borderline poor. Glad to see everyone here thinks I'm made of money recommending "high end" tires. I don't have $400-500 out door for tires mounting and [censored] disposal stuff either.

If I can save hundreds doing them myself at work I can and will


Please accept my apologies

I thought you had more money than you do because of having two sets of wheels and a relatively new car, and you did say you were considering Michelin.

Also, it's cool that you can do the tires yourself! The Cooper CS5 Ultra is a popular tire on here, and the DT/DTD rebates make it a great deal when they run their promos.




Im not totally poor just on a budget like most are. I've had success with Goodyear and cooper also. Yeah, I do tons of tires daily.

 

[53' Stude]

$40 for set of Toyota 16" steel wheels that aren't bent is a steal also. Helps having friends in high and low places

 

[Traction]

Originally Posted By: car51
Well V rated tire means over 100 mph. Sorry, I don't hit 100 mph ever. I'm still debating on tires actually. I'm not rich either; more like borderline poor. Glad to see everyone here thinks I'm made of money recommending "high end" tires. I don't have $400-500 out door for tires mounting and [censored] disposal stuff either.

If I can save hundreds doing them myself at work I can and will

The V speed rating has more to do with how the vehicle handles, not the top speed. The Camry comes from the factory with V rated tires for reasons other than speed, and you did ask for tire suggestions, not how cheap you could get by on the front end, which is not always cheaper in the long run.

 

[krzyss]

Originally Posted By: car51

... At work, if my boss can't get a 93S let's say, he will get a 94T tire or you get the idea


That is correct direction as 94 > 93 and T > S.

S 112 mph 180 km/h
T 118 mph 190 km/h

What you are doing is exactly opposite.

If your car has V rated tires as OE that means that designers decided it fits their design parameters and cost better. You are not improving your car with speed rating downgrade.
Speed rating to some degree is a measure how robust is the tire constructed and how well it dissipates heat and not necessarily how fast you are driving.

Are you going to die or kill anybody because of this? Probably not.

Krzys

 

[supton]

I run RT43's on my two Camries. At some point I should do a cost analysis and see if better Michelins are cheaper, total, once mpg is taken into account. The RT43's give up a couple mpg (hard to say without looking at logs) but saved a couple hundred dollars up front.

My 2011 had Michelin Energies (done in 30k) followed by Michelin something... forgot now... done after 40k, and awful in snow. RT43's go about 30k, have good snow traction when new, and ride good. Some of them are made stateside too.

 

[53' Stude]

Actually, on the door placard; there is no speed rating, just the size. I'm looking st goodyears that Wal Mart has and are "V" rated

 

[PolarisX]

Originally Posted By: car51
I decided on some Firestone FR710's at $70~ per tire delivered and I can install them after work saving me environmental fee, and other b.s.

We ran these on or Malibu. They went about 60k. Not bad, not great either. Had a kind of harsher ride. Will hydroplane if you don't watch what you are doing even newer.

 

[Olas]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Olas
If your ABS kicks in your tyres aren't good enough.
If your ABS doesn't kick in your brakes aren't good enough.


That doesn't make an ounce of sense.


Did you read it properly?

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Olas
If your ABS kicks in your tyres aren't good enough.
If your ABS doesn't kick in your brakes aren't good enough.


That doesn't make an ounce of sense.


Did you read it properly?
I did. You didn't write it properly.

If ABS kicks in, the tires aren't good enough. So let's say you've got the worlds best tires.

If ABS doesn't kick in, the brakes aren't good enough. So you want ABS to kick in? Well in that case then the tires must not be good. But wait, remember we've got the best tires in the world.

Don't use 2 negatives in 1 sentence, that's little kid grammar 101.

 

[d00df00d]

Condescension definitely feels good sometimes, but it's risky because you might have missed the point of the thing you're mocking. In that case, you're the one who looks silly.

That seems to be what has happened here. FWIW.

 

[Olas]

Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Olas
If your ABS kicks in your tyres aren't good enough.
If your ABS doesn't kick in your brakes aren't good enough.


That doesn't make an ounce of sense.


Did you read it properly?
I did. You didn't write it properly.

If ABS kicks in, the tires aren't good enough. So let's say you've got the worlds best tires.

If ABS doesn't kick in, the brakes aren't good enough. So you want ABS to kick in? Well in that case then the tires must not be good. But wait, remember we've got the best tires in the world.

Don't use 2 negatives in 1 sentence, that's little kid grammar 101.


Are you suggesting that by removing braking you somehow make your tyres good enough?

Think about your vehicle weight, and how you want yor brake/tyre interaction to manage the deceleration of that weight.