Tire Rack tests all season tires

[Hokiefyd]

I recognize Tire Rack's adoration to BMWs, but they really need to test tires with segment-appropriate vehicles. At least they used a Prius when they tested low rolling resistance tires a year or two ago.

I'd like to see them use a Malibu or something similar if they're going to test passenger all-season tires. Something with a typical MacPherson strut front suspension with "typical" alignment settings and "typical" weight distribution that folks shopping in that segment will likely be driving.

 

[Russell]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I recognize Tire Rack's adoration to BMWs, but they really need to test tires with segment-appropriate vehicles. At least they used a Prius when they tested low rolling resistance tires a year or two ago.

I'd like to see them use a Malibu or something similar if they're going to test passenger all-season tires. Something with a typical MacPherson strut front suspension with "typical" alignment settings and "typical" weight distribution that folks shopping in that segment will likely be driving.


sort of agree re thae car. However, that could mean a lot of car or trucks to use.

 

[charbaby]

Also, I just want to add that the Hankook's didn't embarass itself with the other tires in the test. Looking at most test scores which were rated out of a total possability of 10 points, the H727 scored 1 point lower in most test compared to the absolute top scoring tire in the test. ONE POINT!!
2 points(at most) in couple of others tests. And the top scoring tire in each catigory wasn't always the same tire brand, as no one tire can eclips each catigory.

The H727's did rate at the top for ride and quiet which is what customer reviews and other test scores reflect. As all season tires are a mixed bag, the H727 does do well in snow/ice(not reflected in the TR test) but maybe better than most other A/S tires

Not Embarassing! Just not quite a fair test. All tires should have been "T" speed rated tires. But, since the TR hadn't tested the H727's yet nor the HydroEdge"GREEN" and the Tripple Tread was the "NEW"/improved version and the Altimax HP was a retest, it was only fair and maybe made sence to test these tires together. There was a bit of "apples and oranges" here! But, that's OK as it gives us readers something again to compare

Again to readers...Choose tires that meet your criteria but, have a criteria that doesn't only consist of being round & black and dirt cheap!

 

[Hokiefyd]

This will be at least the 3rd time the HydroEdge Green X has been tested by Tire Rack. It was previously tested in July 2010 and August 2009.

Frankly, I believe the Hankook's performance was unacceptable, but I will caveat that with "if and only if your highest priority when buying tires is traction." And in this case, wet traction in particular. Stuff like this is something most drivers will never know unless they have to use the tire to its fullest capability. Compared with the other T-rated tire in the test (the Michelin), the Hankook took an extra 14.4 feet to stop on wet pavement (and an extra 5 feet to stop on dry).

The Hankooks did not rate at the top for ride (they gave the General Altimax HP the top mark for that), but it did top their chart for noise.

Given the performance of the other tires in general, including the other T-rated tire in the test, I do not think the wet performance of the Hankook is acceptable. Consumer Reports rated it "Very Good" for wet braking, and the HydroEdge Green X was included in that test as well. It's possible that Hankook has changed the compound of the tire, resulting in the performance difference.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I recognize Tire Rack's adoration to BMWs, but they really need to test tires with segment-appropriate vehicles. At least they used a Prius when they tested low rolling resistance tires a year or two ago.

I'd like to see them use a Malibu or something similar if they're going to test passenger all-season tires. Something with a typical MacPherson strut front suspension with "typical" alignment settings and "typical" weight distribution that folks shopping in that segment will likely be driving.


I strongly concur. The results are deeply affected by platform and tire sizing, thus making real objective comparison more difficult.

 

[kr_bitog]

Bear in mind, some tires have noticable long scrub-in period, e.g. Hankook, Toyo, so even on the kind of test Tirerack conducted, sometimes it is not easy to compare the performance except maybe they shave the tire before the test. Average result from people's review doing 5-10k miles can be a better representative

 

[Papa Bear]

In my size ( 225-60-17 ) only 3 of the 4 are available.
Goodyear triple tread $185
Hankook H727 $112
Michelin HydroEdge w/Green $151

I'm all over those Hankooks ......

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I recognize Tire Rack's adoration to BMWs, but they really need to test tires with segment-appropriate vehicles. At least they used a Prius when they tested low rolling resistance tires a year or two ago.

I'd like to see them use a Malibu or something similar if they're going to test passenger all-season tires. Something with a typical MacPherson strut front suspension with "typical" alignment settings and "typical" weight distribution that folks shopping in that segment will likely be driving.


I strongly concur. The results are deeply affected by platform and tire sizing, thus making real objective comparison more difficult.


Maybe BMW ranks at the top of cars owned by purchasers? I don't know but I'm skeptical of that. I too wish they would use some other vehicles. Heck, do one test with the same tire & see how comparable they are, i.e. do the tires still come out in the same order with the same (relative) results?

 

[cchase]

All of those who think the tests are skewed by their choise of a BMW:

Do you think the stopping distance rankings would have changed with a Toyota Camry, for example?

I strongly suspect not.

 

[charbaby]

Originally Posted By: cchase
All of those who think the tests are skewed by their choise of a BMW:

Do you think the stopping distance rankings would have changed with a Toyota Camry, for example?

I strongly suspect not.


Yes, the stopping distance would have been loooonger!

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Which are US made? Probably only the Michelin and Goodyear.

That ought to be a consideration too... Especially versus the Hankook.


Why should a mostly objective test like tire testing even remotely consider country of origin which is subjective.

Its a valid personal consideration though.

 

[zyxelenator]

I will put my H727s in the beginning-mid December. Will see how they perform in rain,snow and ice. On particular average Camry with soft suspension.
Right now I have old Hankooks Radialmax A/S, that are close to wear indicators. They are very quite comparing to lower profile Turanza and Eagle F-1 I had on 03 Altima SE

My current tires easily spin in rain from stop, did slide a little in rain, when some idiot jumped in front of me and I hit brakes hard, but completely controllable. I just drive slower and more carefully in bad weather. Camry on Hankooks is not my previous Altima or friends GTI or Fathers Cooper S on bigger rims and performance tires. But much more comfortable and quite

Why I bought them? Good review from users,thread life and total price of $256 after 2 rebates.

 

[charbaby]

Prior to last winter, my buddy put the H727's on his '04 Camry LE 4 cyl(travels 50 miles one way every morning for work) and his sons '00 CR-V(travels 25 miles one way every morning for collage) and both love'em.

I put the H727's on our daughters Mazda3 last OCT and she drove through the winter of Buffalo/Niagra Falls where she lives/works...Very happy! And she comes home to Rochester often on the weekends(80+ miles). Most roads are plowed but when they're not, the car/tires do fine.

Although I only a bit dissapointed that the H727 didn't have a better showing in the Tire Rack test, we love'em just the same.

These tires should do well in the snow in KY.

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Which are US made? Probably only the Michelin and Goodyear.

That ought to be a consideration too... Especially versus the Hankook.


Why should a mostly objective test like tire testing even remotely consider country of origin which is subjective.

Its a valid personal consideration though.


COO is most certainly objective, no feelings involved; it doesn't vary from person to person. It's not a test though.