I know which one I'd buy. Guess you still get what you pay for. If you can't make it out, the Tiggy has a dent over the driver's door.
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Tiguan vs Sportage roll over test...
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ehh... that'll buff right out.
Is there a video from this test?
Is there a video from this test?
It would make sense to you if you'd ever been in a Kia. They may be good value but they have to be one of the lightest built cars out there. And not a good "light", more like if you slam the door too hard it might just come off the car.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
ehh... that'll buff right out.
Is there a video from this test?
What did we do before Youtube?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1ZDdgMVo4
Found a few more pics, and I must apologize to Kia fans. Looks like a lot of other manufacturers got pwned by Volkswagen, though Kia was the worst.
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/iihs-roof-strength-crash-tests/#2
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/24/iihs-debuts-new-roof-strength-crash-test-small-suvs-rated-first/
Here's the article I pulled the first pics from.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/01/19...-the-road.htm/3
ehh... that'll buff right out.
Is there a video from this test?
What did we do before Youtube?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1ZDdgMVo4
Found a few more pics, and I must apologize to Kia fans. Looks like a lot of other manufacturers got pwned by Volkswagen, though Kia was the worst.
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/iihs-roof-strength-crash-tests/#2
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/24/iihs-debuts-new-roof-strength-crash-test-small-suvs-rated-first/
Here's the article I pulled the first pics from.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/01/19...-the-road.htm/3
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Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
That doesn't change their results, they rated as good the following CUVs: the Volkswagen Tiguan, Subaru Forester, Honda Element and Jeep Patriot.
Mine is rated as acceptable.
I just find it quite fishy they didn't use this car to illustrate their wordings: Bad journalism looking for some big headlines?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
That doesn't change their results, they rated as good the following CUVs: the Volkswagen Tiguan, Subaru Forester, Honda Element and Jeep Patriot.
Mine is rated as acceptable.
I just find it quite fishy they didn't use this car to illustrate their wordings: Bad journalism looking for some big headlines?
Isn't the Hyundai Tucson the same car as the Sportage? Why does it look like the Tucson fared a little better?
I don't know what they did to get the cars to rollover, and have to admit the Tiguan does look impressive, but I think they really need to do it with several cars for the same make and model to see if they get the same results with each. Otherwise how do they know the test they are using is valid? It doesn't look like they are taking a machine and measuring how many pounds are applied to see what the crushing threshold is.
I don't know what they did to get the cars to rollover, and have to admit the Tiguan does look impressive, but I think they really need to do it with several cars for the same make and model to see if they get the same results with each. Otherwise how do they know the test they are using is valid? It doesn't look like they are taking a machine and measuring how many pounds are applied to see what the crushing threshold is.
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Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think it's a Mazda CX-7
Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think it's a Mazda CX-7
My mom drives a 99 Sportage. I can't speak for it's rollover damage but I will say that it has a fully boxed frame under it. She had a guy in a Buick make an illegal left turn in front of her and she T-Boned him.
Destroyed the buick. The Sportage went right through the car and kept rolling. The bumper came off, fenders bent as did the hood but it did not sustain any core support damage.
We got the Sportage fixed.
Destroyed the buick. The Sportage went right through the car and kept rolling. The bumper came off, fenders bent as did the hood but it did not sustain any core support damage.
We got the Sportage fixed.
Originally Posted By: Pesca
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think they crash them all by applying pressure from the top/side (the youtube video shows this). They probably kept applying more and more force just to measure at which point the roof finally did give in. However, at the NHTSA mandated 15,000 lbs, Tiguan's roof may have been intact.
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think they crash them all by applying pressure from the top/side (the youtube video shows this). They probably kept applying more and more force just to measure at which point the roof finally did give in. However, at the NHTSA mandated 15,000 lbs, Tiguan's roof may have been intact.
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
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Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think it's a Mazda CX-7
Nevermind, looked closer and you're right. It is a TIguan
I take my other post back too.
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Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think it's a Mazda CX-7
Nevermind, looked closer and you're right. It is a TIguan
I take my other post back too.
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Pesca
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think they crash them all by applying pressure from the top/side (the youtube video shows this). They probably kept applying more and more force just to measure at which point the roof finally did give in. However, at the NHTSA mandated 15,000 lbs, Tiguan's roof may have been intact.
No, it is said in the video (or the Autoblog text): they use 4 times the weight of the car where regulation asks for 1.5 times (will be moved to 2.5 soon). So the results should be the same (no test to the limit).
For CUVs, they use 15,000 lbs and for the smart and Aveo 9,000lbs (=> Aveo more crushed than the smart).
Originally Posted By: Pesca
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
I think they crash them all by applying pressure from the top/side (the youtube video shows this). They probably kept applying more and more force just to measure at which point the roof finally did give in. However, at the NHTSA mandated 15,000 lbs, Tiguan's roof may have been intact.
No, it is said in the video (or the Autoblog text): they use 4 times the weight of the car where regulation asks for 1.5 times (will be moved to 2.5 soon). So the results should be the same (no test to the limit).
For CUVs, they use 15,000 lbs and for the smart and Aveo 9,000lbs (=> Aveo more crushed than the smart).
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
That doesn't change their results, they rated as good the following CUVs: the Volkswagen Tiguan, Subaru Forester, Honda Element and Jeep Patriot.
Mine is rated as acceptable.
I just find it quite fishy they didn't use this car to illustrate their wordings: Bad journalism looking for some big headlines?
Good eye. I, too, think that in the picture of al1 12 vehicles, the top right is indeed a Tiguan. Maybe the IIHS should be taken with a grain of salt.
Euh, there is something strange here: If you look at the photo group at AutoBlog, what is the car which is in the last row, to the right (Silver one)? Isn't it the Tiguan?
If this is a Tiguan, it is way more crashed that the blue one they photographed individually.
That doesn't change their results, they rated as good the following CUVs: the Volkswagen Tiguan, Subaru Forester, Honda Element and Jeep Patriot.
Mine is rated as acceptable.
I just find it quite fishy they didn't use this car to illustrate their wordings: Bad journalism looking for some big headlines?
Good eye. I, too, think that in the picture of al1 12 vehicles, the top right is indeed a Tiguan. Maybe the IIHS should be taken with a grain of salt.
The roll over crash tests are all good but... I'm no engineer but it seems to me that using a loaded weight at a 45degree angle
doesn't truly mimic a roll over. There was talk a while back to get the government to put the cars on a "spit" if you will and roll them over to accurately simulate the rollover motion.
doesn't truly mimic a roll over. There was talk a while back to get the government to put the cars on a "spit" if you will and roll them over to accurately simulate the rollover motion.
Don't you guys know VWs are horrible cars?
It's tests like these that lead to cars being:
1) Heavier
2) More expensive
3) Less fuel efficient
All for the feel-good factor. Five star safety ratings don't compensate for the loose nut behind the wheel as she puts on mascara and drinks her coffee while blowing a red light because she's late for work.
1) Heavier
2) More expensive
3) Less fuel efficient
All for the feel-good factor. Five star safety ratings don't compensate for the loose nut behind the wheel as she puts on mascara and drinks her coffee while blowing a red light because she's late for work.
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Right, but when that driver t-bones you at that intersection, and your vehicle rolls over, isn't good to know that your head won't be crushed by the roof.
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