These filters can be cranked down!

[ZeeOSix]

Amazing how a simple process, either "1/2 to 3/4 turn after contact", or this new, "Turn until it bottoms out", can be disregarded.

I've watchet the ham-handed ones overdo it all my car life. Now I get to read about it!

The purpose of a torque stop design is to not over compress the gasket because the filter will stop turning first.

 

[ZeeOSix]

As usual, curiosity got to me, so I pulled the Pilot up on ramps and tried tightening the filter a little more. I got less than 10 degrees more out of it, but feel like it's a win anyway.

I'll watch it carefully over the next few weeks, but here's what it looks like now:

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Think you're good if it only moved another 10 degrees and it looks pretty much bottomed out on the seat.

 

[ZeeOSix]

If an oil filter is a replacement for an OE part, it should behave the way the OE part does, and follow the OE repair manual procedure.

Not every oil filter for the same engine will use the same gasket type - either flat cut or P-style. Typically OEM filters from the dealership will use the same gasket style as the filter from the factory.

 

[Sayjac]

Sure you 'can' do it, but should you? I prefer that my filters come off by hand when it is time to change them, not 1" impact gun required for removal.

And that imo is the operative word in the OP's Microgard PDF instructions link. It says "can be tightened..." . Doesn't say 'must' or even 'preferable.' I also know for a fact that on engines with an oil cooler at the filter, the P type gasket torque stop has been know to score the metal seal area on the oil cooler. Something else to consider if you have such a set up.

 

[ZeeOSix]

In many cases (post 29 is one example), if the filter is installed per the instructions (turn amount after initial gasket contact or by a torque spec on the filter can or in the service manual), the filter will basically bottom out on the seat - that's the "torque stop" feature happening. All these filter makers putting out a technical bulletin about how a P-gasket works and differs from a flat-cut gasket is being done for a reason.

 

[chazthespaz]

Oil filter metal to metal? Not gonna do it; wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.

 

[JavierH19]

Quick lubers will stretch the threads on the bung instead.