"The Subaru WRX Proves Everyone Wrong About CVT Transmissions"
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Fake shifting on a CVT is stupid. Just let it be a CVT 
All CVT transmissions suck! If the design is that good why don't big equipment machines like loaders, dozers, and excavators use it? I never want one in anything.
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My snowmobile has a CVT.....and that's where CVTs belong.
Fake shifting on a CVT is stupid. Just let it be a CVT
Our Sentra fakes shifts.
Ironically, the computer goes to great lengths to hide the actual shift from the 2 speed planetary.
It is absolutely impossible to make everyone happy. And CVT shift points is a perfect example.Fake shifting on a CVT is stupid. Just let it be a CVT
I'm not familiar with the history of CVT's in other cars, but I've followed the history of CVT's in Subaru cars a little. When Subaru first used the CVT, people complained that they felt mushy, and very slow. So Subaru put in shift points, so as to simulate a conventional a/t. That made some people happy. They no longer felt that the CVT was slow and mushy. But now others were unhappy. The artificial shift points bothered them - as mentioned here. I actually feel sorry for the auto manufacturers when it comes to things like this. They can't win for losing.
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I feel sorry for US! Give me a fricken manual! Not the lame 6 speed manual subaru was using which had a useless 5th gear.
Thanks for making my point.
The only cvt that's impressed me is Toyota with their hybrid system. It is extremely reliable and effective and handles torque well.
I really didn't mind the CVT in my wife's Impreza. I'm so used to it now in her Forte that it rarely crosses my mind that it's not a traditional automatic. I would probably rather have a manual in something sporty like the WRX though.
I happen to like manual transmissions; three of five of my (4-wheeled) vehicles have them. For me, under most conditions, they are fun to use and for some reason make it an "occasion" to drive those vehicles. Having said this - the tech is off-the-ark in concept, due to the interruptions in acceleration as you shift gears.
I'll live out my remaining years with one- or several in the "stable" 'til I can't shift gears any more.
I'll live out my remaining years with one- or several in the "stable" 'til I can't shift gears any more.
They can make it so you can have fake shifting or not, which is what they did on the turbo XT
When Subaru first used the CVT, they weren't reliable
Hmm...what if we made a manually shifted CVT? Just a big slide lever in the center console (with or without detents) so you can choose the exact ratio you want when you want. Best or worst of both worlds?
What would help is a Choice! Now CVT is all there is, like it, hate it, you just can't leave it when that's all there is.
In the 1960s I started off with a '3 on the tree' and then a couple of 3 spd THM400s. Then a 4 spd floor shift and on it goes. I really liked the 4 speed autos with the overdrive ratio and lock up converter clutch in the 1980s. Now a couple of gear holding 6spd autos that are very nice. I don't see the need for 8 to 10 spd. CVT isn't appealing.
There are some farm tractors that have CVT's. Fendt.
Heavy equipment is heavily start stop and low speed with varying loads. Cars are generally limited start/stops with same loads and majority of life is spent in steady speed.
Not comparable.
Yep, I think that is a pretty good system. I read that Subaru went with the CVT instead of a many speed auto, mostly because a CVT fits better into the car, as its not very long. I don't think the Toyota planetary CVT would fit that well either unfortunately.
Anyways, I have no complaints with how the CVT works in Outback in normal road driving. Reacts fast for passing and if I want to save gas and use less throttle, it doesn't use the fake shifts, and it can get better mileage than my Focus. I only tow about 1200-1500 lbs but that's practically unnoticeable and its got a transmission fluid cooler.
The lowest CVT gear ratio isn't really that low, so it unlocks the torque converter and isn't a great rock crawler, but it does old logging roads good enough.
Like any autotragic, I just hope it doesn't break down with some regular fluid changes...
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