The Size Of Touchscreens Is Getting Ridiculous!

According to a Stanford Law School report, at least 90% of all motor vehicle crashes are caused fully or in part by human error.

So it ain't the screen. It's the Bozos.
There are several studies that would question that. But, back to the OP/TS … think he’s seeing a peeing contest taking shape … IIHS is already “monitoring” (sorry) so doubt they reach 27” without intervention …
 
I'll agree with that. They shouldn't drink and drive either, but they do. Everything you're saying proves that the bulk of drivers out there are distracted idiots. And the numbers back it up. And yet you can't comprehend that all of this electronic wizardry isn't adding to the problem? Cell phone use alone while driving leads to 1.6 million crashes each year. Nearly 390,000 injuries occur each year from accidents caused by texting while driving. 1 out of every 4 car accidents in the United States is caused by texting and driving.

Distracted drivers are causing this, by not paying attention. And yet you can't understand that giving them more toys to distract them with, isn't going to cause a bigger problem? Come on. What's next, beer taps built into the counsel for DUI recipients?
Take away the cell phones and touch screen radios and people will fiddle with CD’s, take that away and they’ll fiddle with the radio, take that away and they’ll just move onto the next thing. I remember seeing people reading newspapers on the highway (and the choice words my mother called them) when I was a kid. The problem isn’t touch screens or anything else…. The problem is human nature pure and simple.
 
Take away the cell phones and touch screen radios and people will fiddle with CD’s, take that away and they’ll fiddle with the radio, take that away and they’ll just move onto the next thing. I remember seeing people reading newspapers on the highway (and the choice words my mother called them) when I was a kid. The problem isn’t touch screens or anything else…. The problem is human nature pure and simple.


Eating while driving causes accidents. Distracted driving has been around since the wheel was invented.
 
According to a Stanford Law School report, at least 90% of all motor vehicle crashes are caused fully or in part by human error.

So it ain't the screen. It's the Bozos.
Thank you for the share, will do some reading of the NHTSA study tonight as I find the topic very interesting. I like how they reference emotional causal relationships. I think people over look mood in how they drive and the potential impact that can have.


I was watching a video on YouTube with a British driving instructor (forget how it popped up on my feed) interestingly it was just dashcam of his student being tailgated during a lesson on the motorway and then through a roundabout. Interestingly he kept asking the student “how is this car being this close making you feel?” Obviously this is a reminder for the student to stay the course and drive safely and be cognizant of the outside effects on his decision making skills. Oddly enough the next day I had to leave a terribly designed parking lot driveway to make a left across a busy road. As cars started to lineup behind me I started to ask myself, “how are these cars influencing your decision making process?” And realized how apt I was to making a heavy throttle move with little room for error. I’m 32, started driving in NYC, was in an outside sales capacity in Houston so used to traffic but it did help me improve. Sorry for the tangent but that article got me thinking of this.
 
Take away the cell phones and touch screen radios and people will fiddle with CD’s, take that away and they’ll fiddle with the radio, take that away and they’ll just move onto the next thing.

The problem is nobody is "taking away" anything. They're adding to the problem. Cell phones upped the accident rate astronomically. Texting on those same cell phones drove it up much higher. Playing with all these on board electronics and do dads are adding still more to it. The problem is getting worse, not better. More crap = more accidents.
 
The problem is nobody is "taking away" anything. They're adding to the problem. Cell phones upped the accident rate astronomically. Texting on those same cell phones drove it up much higher. Playing with all these on board electronics and do dads are adding still more to it. The problem is getting worse, not better. More crap = more accidents.
Where are you getting this accident rate info. I can only find death rate statistics for NHTSA but would love to look at the accident information. The death rate per 100,000,000 miles has dropped year on year between 2015-2019 it surged in 2016 but seems to be dropping to normal levels despite Americans driving 88 billion more miles. Death rate is half that of 1988 and 37.5% lower than 1999.

Death rate outside the vehicle has decreased 1.9% for vulnerable road users though. But injuries for that group has increased 2.2% which is bittersweet potentially indicative of better safety advances in pedestrian impact components

Link to study here. (https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/Publication/813060)
 
There are several studies that would question that. But, back to the OP/TS … think he’s seeing a peeing contest taking shape … IIHS is already “monitoring” (sorry) so doubt they reach 27” without intervention …
Curious... What's in 2nd place? Inclement weather perhaps?
Don't make me stop this car!
 
I don't see how screen size effects crashes. I mean, you could just pull out your phone. But I hate the huge screens, like the Teslas and some other cars are having now.
 
This is my Jeep dash … nice big grippy knobs or buttons … I tend to only need the screen somewhat for navigation and normally tell the lady behind the dash that I’m looking for a POI …

Note screen off button as well

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Not horrendous 4WD, but still not GOOD human factors engineering
It was hard to beat the Knob for Temp, Knob or ir direction and KNob for Fan speed.
I find the buttons for air direction and recirc - similar to what I have in my Ford too consuming
They should not jam everything and in to one "stylized" control interface.
Radio and vehicle functions are mixed in with HVAC. The knobs or buttons need differentiation in size, shape and placement.
I would guess there are major cost drivers here - and there shouldn't be for safeties' sake.

A woman, a former Hudson police officer, was just hit and killed by a distracted driver in my Town of Kingston, NH. She was bike riding on the road shoulder. - Ken
 
So My passenger cant use the nav or android auto while moving now...
because of all the bozos crashing.
Cant they make you pinky swear its the passenger using it or something?

I can use the car voice command but its so horrible its like you are speaking foreign language.
The android auto voice command works decently but sometimes makes odd mistakes.

I added a restaurant stop that was 3 miles away and it had me going to my destination, then driving back to restaurant..

And We couldnt change anything because.. moving.

I was about to pass what I thought was the exit.
So ended up pulling off.. had wife fix the nav then pulling back on road.. THAT IS SAFER RIGHT THERE!
(was 2 exits later but unfamiliar with area)
 
Take away the cell phones and touch screen radios and people will fiddle with CD’s, take that away and they’ll fiddle with the radio, take that away and they’ll just move onto the next thing. I remember seeing people reading newspapers on the highway (and the choice words my mother called them) when I was a kid. The problem isn’t touch screens or anything else…. The problem is human nature pure and simple.
Take away all that stuff and soon all we'll be able to do behind the wheel is drink!
 
So My passenger cant use the nav or android auto while moving now...
because of all the bozos crashing.
Cant they make you pinky swear its the passenger using it or something?

I can use the car voice command but its so horrible its like you are speaking foreign language.
The android auto voice command works decently but sometimes makes odd mistakes.

I added a restaurant stop that was 3 miles away and it had me going to my destination, then driving back to restaurant..

And We couldnt change anything because.. moving.

I was about to pass what I thought was the exit.
So ended up pulling off.. had wife fix the nav then pulling back on road.. THAT IS SAFER RIGHT THERE!
(was 2 exits later but unfamiliar with area)


Sounds exactly what my folks did back in the day with a paper map. Dad would get lost and the two of them yelling until he would pull over somewhere and they could inspect the map closer.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
 
Not horrendous 4WD, but still not GOOD human factors engineering
It was hard to beat the Knob for Temp, Knob or ir direction and KNob for Fan speed.
I find the buttons for air direction and recirc - similar to what I have in my Ford too consuming
They should not jam everything and in to one "stylized" control interface.
Radio and vehicle functions are mixed in with HVAC. The knobs or buttons need differentiation in size, shape and placement.
I would guess there are major cost drivers here - and there shouldn't be for safeties' sake.

A woman, a former Hudson police officer, was just hit and killed by a distracted driver in my Town of Kingston, NH. She was bike riding on the road shoulder. - Ken
Radio controls on the steering wheel and are 100% by feel … of course driver display and cruise are there too …
I can change cruise without looking - obviously not the info screen but things that can wait … the default screen has most I need. Its rare that I’d change temp - just fan speed once in a while …
I do wish Jeep would keep oil psi up full time - but you have to select it and oil temps …
 
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