I get it. When the information supports your point of view it’s good. We are not discussing science here. What is being discussed is point of view being passed off as facts,
The Lyrics charge curve is in and......
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If 800 volt architecture makes for superior drivetrain efficiency I'm having a hard time finding it.
The EPA has an interesting comparative section that lets you compare MPGE and a host of other specs - I didnt know the EV6 was categorized as a wagon - thats interesting. I use the EV'6 and 800 Volt benchmark most but did a high end car comparison.
Im open to looking at more data. Who has it?
Much of this pretty close to what we see in other 3rd party testing making the EPA's data -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corroborating_evidence
The EPA has an interesting comparative section that lets you compare MPGE and a host of other specs - I didnt know the EV6 was categorized as a wagon - thats interesting. I use the EV'6 and 800 Volt benchmark most but did a high end car comparison.
Im open to looking at more data. Who has it?
Much of this pretty close to what we see in other 3rd party testing making the EPA's data -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corroborating_evidence
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Back to the topic.
I think another YouTube person saw this same weird charging sag around the 80% mark. Seems like there is something going on in the battery management system that is causing this fluke. Curious to see this play out and someone analyze the battery stats when these sags occur.
Not hugely terrible charging performance but not great from GM's top brand riding on their Ultium platform.
I think another YouTube person saw this same weird charging sag around the 80% mark. Seems like there is something going on in the battery management system that is causing this fluke. Curious to see this play out and someone analyze the battery stats when these sags occur.
Not hugely terrible charging performance but not great from GM's top brand riding on their Ultium platform.
As soon as someone gets an OBD monitor on one and charges from a low SOC on a hot day at a DC fast charger were going to see just how well the general controls cell to cell voltage and temps.
Also eager to find out how well it cools the cabin when fast charging in 110 degree heat.
Hopefully they are just being conservative and can safely turn it up from here because based on what we've seen so far this is just a nice coach and not at all a competitive EV from a multi stop trip standpoint.
Heres the curve from the lyric forum with the latest patch/ update - still a giant dip.
GM has a ton of work to do, and they've had a ton of time to get this righted optimize this, but here we are.
This does not bode well for the blazer.
GM has a ton of work to do, and they've had a ton of time to get this righted optimize this, but here we are.
This does not bode well for the blazer.
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Still waiting for the big boys to get in... My guess is the GMs of the world have their customer loyalty but their tech struggles...
Well, we are finally seeing higher mileage ev6 battery degradation data. People with 100k+ miles are reporting zero functional loss, but so far the highest mileage official data Ive seen was at 75k miles and showed 4% degradation, although the owner stated they mever fast charged past 80%, so this indicates a fast charged sometimes vehicle that was well cared for. Still, 4% in 75k miles seems plenty good.
I mean, the big boys are in? Tesla has nacs...and soon so will everyone else...which leaves what reason to have to own a Tesla to get into EV?
Okay. Me, on a recent road trip:
12-90% of a 77.4kwh battery. 24 minutes. I guess if I wanted to go 1/3 slower I could have bought an old Tesla.
The Hyundai and the Tesla are pretty close, looks like the nod goes to the Hyundai in most cases - but not by much considering the Tesla is about 25% more efficient.
HVAC in the heat is the wildcard between these two.
Now that Hyundai is on NACS Im eager to see how well they can get it working, If they can get it close it'd put one in the running for me.
Im still concerned we don't know what degradation looks like, but we'll see in a year or so.
On the Ultium Caddy - It's just really sad after all this time, taxpayer loan money, and considering the relative size of the caddy battery is 20% or bigger this thing should blast in amperage right up there with the best of them.
I suspect its got an intercell cooling problem that causing it to pull back- its pretty clear its thermal in nature, but where is the bottleneck?
After a year + of tweaking and software changes to be at this place and time, it's looking like a redesign for the GM battery.
Installing soon...
Is it really, though?
Edmunds managed 238 miles of real world range in their EV6 GT, 283 miles in their GT Line EV6 AWD, and 323 in their Wind RWD.
I personally managed 250-255 miles in my own EV6 GT on my daily commute, which is more highway biased than Edmunds.
In their Model Y Performance, Edmunds managed 263 miles, in their MY LR Dual Motor, 317mi.
So we compare the GT and the MYP. The GT has about 100hp more, and manages 90% of the MYP's range while vastly out-accelerating, and out handling it.
Then we compare the MY LR to the Gt Line. It manages to be about 11% less efficient.
So your numbers are about 2.5x worse than reality, where the Tesla is only 10-12% more efficient.
2023 Tesla Model Y/Cargo volume
30.2 ft³, 76 to 76.2 ft³ with seat area
2024 Kia EV6/Cargo volume
24.4 ft³, 50.2 ft³ with seat area
2023 Tesla Model 3/Cargo volume
19.8 ft³, 22.9 ft³ with seat area
True, the MY does have more cargo space, putting the EV6 kindof in-between, but more like the MYP than it is the M3.
Here is the link, it's in Dutch.
This is what my car displayed with 100% SoC:
This is what it actually delivered:
Try that in a Tesla. Their range meter is pure trash. Being sued for it, if I recall, lol! And you can easily see that the 206mi rating on this car is not accurate. This was on Michelin Pilot Sport AS4's by the way. 6/32 tread.
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