The Gulf oil spill

[Samilcar]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

They also are now drilling relief wells! Seriously? They are still more concerned with getting the oil then plugging the well.


??? The purpose of a relief well is to deliver cement to a damaged well. In so doing, both the relief well and damaged well are plugged up tight with the cement. It's going to be awfully hard to get any oil from the damaged well after that happens.

 

[Gary Allan]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
I will personally do bodily harm to the first enviromentalist that says see what happens to oil rigs on the coast.


Panzerman will probably wear out his weapon long before he is done.


I personally found his cider press method for shore line remediation rather clever. Maybe he can first throw a greenie in the oil and include them with the peligans and ship the whole thing off to G-Oil for rendering. Maybe old style wringer washers would work.

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

 

[brandini]

SEE WHAT HAPPENS!??!?!

But seriously, BP will never get another knowing cent from me. Shell first then Exxon 2nd from here on out.

Businesses are depressing me lately.

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

Another big issue is that cleanup workers are experiencing burning eyes, sore lungs, big headaches...

Another long term effect of being exposed to so much chemical dispersant = illness + cancer?

Any thoughts?

 

[TooManyWheels]

Originally Posted By: Liquid_Turbo
Another big issue is that cleanup workers are experiencing burning eyes, sore lungs, big headaches...

Another long term effect of being exposed to so much chemical dispersant = cancer?

Any thoughts?


Cleanup workers for the Valdez had the same problems.

 

[odie]

wouldn't want any fish or shrimp from that region for next few decades .

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

^

Too bad. Louisana seafood is supposed to be one of the best.. I always thought I'd make a trip there one day to enjoy it..but can't do that anymore!

 

[brandini]

It IS the best. I was born there and the memories now make me sad. I'll e going back in June for a funeral so I wonder what'll be going on then.

 

[Pop_Rivit]

Originally Posted By: Liquid_Turbo
Another big issue is that cleanup workers are experiencing burning eyes, sore lungs, big headaches...

Another long term effect of being exposed to so much chemical dispersant = illness + cancer?

Any thoughts?


I came across this article a short time ago.

Fishermen getting sick

 

[LS2JSTS]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
......no it's just outright ludicrous that the federal government has not stepped in and put the wrath of god down on BP to PERMANENTLY seal this well and never again attempt to recover oil from this area.



No special ESP skills required. It is what it is, I guess it depends on your definition of "area"

 

[Gary Allan]

So those extended views were a one time thing?

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
......no it's just outright ludicrous that the federal government has not stepped in and put the wrath of god down on BP to PERMANENTLY seal this well and never again attempt to recover oil from this area.



I guess it depends on your definition of "area"


For BP, that means the Milky Way Galaxy!

 

[Gary Allan]

Hey, pal ...any driller can make a mistake. You're too young to acqire the NEVER AGAIN!!!! syndrome. That's just for those truly deep into geezerhood.

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: buster
Accidents do happen.. Regulations often have a lot of unintended consequences, some of which are good, and some that are bad. If BP is found to have been negligent in anyway, they should be severely punished. Just because the government may have missed it, doesn't mean there should be no regulations or that they don't work. The free market is a myth and can not be trusted to self regulate. There has to be a balance.

And the government has done what to make the situation better? Regulations are only as good as the ones enforcing them.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/re...illing/19490987

The idea that you can regulate your way to a perfect, accident free world is pure folly. The oil industry is one of the most heavily regulated industries already, with a fantastic record for safety in the last few decades.

Just look at the people on this board and everywhere that now hate BP. Do you think that will bode well for them in the market? THAT is where BP will really take it's hits, and as it should be. That individual people will decide who to support.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: Tempest


The idea that you can regulate your way to a perfect, accident free world is pure folly. The oil industry is one of the most heavily regulated industries already, with a fantastic record for safety in the last few decades.

Just look at the people on this board and everywhere that now hate BP. Do you think that will bode well for them in the market? THAT is where BP will really take it's hits, and as it should be. That individual people will decide who to support.


I agree.

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Just look at the people on this board and everywhere that now hate BP. Do you think that will bode well for them in the market? THAT is where BP will really take it's hits, and as it should be. That individual people will decide who to support.


..but what if it was a Mobil 1 oil rig?

 

[Freelander]

Someone was telling me the Russians actually used atomic bombs to seal some leaking oil wells, back in the 50's. Do you think he was pulling my leg, has anyone ever heard of this?

 

[PandaBear]

Mistake or not, I don't think it is 100% predictable. You are talking about mining in a new type of environment that hasn't been done for too long before, and whether they know what to do and can predict what kind of accident (which they said was impossible) can happen are all guess work.

Regulators, as long as they are not bribed, and the oil companies, as long as they are not bribing or hiding the problems, are doing what they can. I'm not a fan of drilling or defending the big oils, but these freak accidents do happen and this one is kind of new. I don't even know whether the regulator will know what to regulate.

Hopefully they learn something out of this and have more safety redundancy in place next time instead. That's all you can hope for.

 

[Shannow]

Problem with the market punishing them is that it's retrospective, and requires a disaster in the first place to foment opinion.