The GM ignition switch trial follies

[A_Harman]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...am-house-fraud-

Now that GM is a big, fat target for all kinds of claims over the ignition switch fiasco, cases like this can be expected.

 

[HerrStig]

"Personal injury lawyers" ... their biggest disappointment is that there was an accident and nobody was hurt. This claim was a house of cards, and such things also have happened to Toyota.

 

[OneEyeJack]

There should be an Academy Awards classification for best performance in a fraudulent law suit. An award should be presented for the best performance by an attorney and one for best performance by a plaintiff.

The competition would be fierce but that would only make the awards more valuable and prestigious. And remember, these are performances before a live audience. The script, voices, dialog, presentation, budget, witness coaching and wardrobe all become contributing factors.

The real reward could be a pilot for a series on NBC because they have lots of free unaccounted for air time. Beyond that there's the strong possibility of a political career. That's were the best performers go. They follow the money.

 

[Ihatetochangeoil]

Well...I can't post any spectacular links, the reader will decide whether to believe me or not. I own a 2004 Impala, purchased new in 2005 from a dealer no longer in existence. We took the car west on vacation in 2007 while still under warranty. We traveled far enough to be NOT under warranty anymore.
With the warranty expired by 36 miles, the speedometer and entire instrument cluster went nonfunctional coming down the west side of the Rockies with my 15 1/2 year old son behind the wheel getting some driving experience with mom and dad in the car. He pulled over and let dad drive. I pulled into Phoenix AZ, got mom and kids into a Hotel, and took the car a few blocks up the street to a local GM dealer; dropped it off for service and rented a car. 3 days and $2700 later, my car is fixed at the dealer. I picked it up, drove the few blocks to the Hotel, shut the key off. Don't remember why, but I tried to restart the car. Ignition switch jammed. Had car towed back to dealer, spent another $700.
Came home to St. Louis, almost exactly a year later the same switch died AGAIN. Towed to local dealer, replaced switch again. They called dealer in AZ who verified date I purchased new switch, and this time I paid only for "labor," about $200.
I recently started getting letters from GM (local dealer) that my car is under factory recall, it is "dangerous" to drive, and I need to bring it in for FREE parts and installation of an ignition switch. I called the dealer and asked them to just give me a check for $700. I was told "sorry" all the factory authorizes us to do is replace switches.
And people wonder why some of us call them Stealerships?
I have the receipt from the dealer in AZ, and I would go see an attorney, but suing General Motors? (Removed political content)

 

[skyactiv]

Originally Posted By: Ihatetochangeoil
Well...I can't post any spectacular links, the reader will decide whether to believe me or not. I own a 2004 Impala, purchased new in 2005 from a dealer no longer in existence. We took the car west on vacation in 2007 while still under warranty. We traveled far enough to be NOT under warranty anymore.
With the warranty expired by 36 miles, the speedometer and entire instrument cluster went nonfunctional coming down the west side of the Rockies with my 15 1/2 year old son behind the wheel getting some driving experience with mom and dad in the car. He pulled over and let dad drive. I pulled into Phoenix AZ, got mom and kids into a Hotel, and took the car a few blocks up the street to a local GM dealer; dropped it off for service and rented a car. 3 days and $2700 later, my car is fixed at the dealer. I picked it up, drove the few blocks to the Hotel, shut the key off. Don't remember why, but I tried to restart the car. Ignition switch jammed. Had car towed back to dealer, spent another $700.
Came home to St. Louis, almost exactly a year later the same switch died AGAIN. Towed to local dealer, replaced switch again. They called dealer in AZ who verified date I purchased new switch, and this time I paid only for "labor," about $200.
I recently started getting letters from GM (local dealer) that my car is under factory recall, it is "dangerous" to drive, and I need to bring it in for FREE parts and installation of an ignition switch. I called the dealer and asked them to just give me a check for $700. I was told "sorry" all the factory authorizes us to do is replace switches.
And people wonder why some of us call them Stealerships?
I have the receipt from the dealer in AZ, and I would go see an attorney, but suing General Motors?




How many miles was on the car when you bought it new? When I was a mechanic at a Honda dealer*, if the car was sold new with say 115 miles worth of test...drives on it, that was added to the warranty.
Keep that in mind people, you never know.

* Am now a semi mech at a bussiness where my union tells me who to vote for.

 

[silveravant]

Sure, all personal injury lawyers are scum, until you need one.

 

[artificialist]

I had this issue on my Saturn and paid $500 to get it fixed. I sold the car before the recall was issued, and couldn't get anything back for what I paid.

I did everything I could to make sure nobody in my family buys another GM car or truck.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: Ihatetochangeoil
Well...I can't post any spectacular links, the reader will decide whether to believe me or not. I own a 2004 Impala, purchased new in 2005 from a dealer no longer in existence. We took the car west on vacation in 2007 while still under warranty. We traveled far enough to be NOT under warranty anymore.
With the warranty expired by 36 miles, the speedometer and entire instrument cluster went nonfunctional coming down the west side of the Rockies with my 15 1/2 year old son behind the wheel getting some driving experience with mom and dad in the car. He pulled over and let dad drive. I pulled into Phoenix AZ, got mom and kids into a Hotel, and took the car a few blocks up the street to a local GM dealer; dropped it off for service and rented a car. 3 days and $2700 later, my car is fixed at the dealer. I picked it up, drove the few blocks to the Hotel, shut the key off. Don't remember why, but I tried to restart the car. Ignition switch jammed. Had car towed back to dealer, spent another $700.
Came home to St. Louis, almost exactly a year later the same switch died AGAIN. Towed to local dealer, replaced switch again. They called dealer in AZ who verified date I purchased new switch, and this time I paid only for "labor," about $200.
I recently started getting letters from GM (local dealer) that my car is under factory recall, it is "dangerous" to drive, and I need to bring it in for FREE parts and installation of an ignition switch. I called the dealer and asked them to just give me a check for $700. I was told "sorry" all the factory authorizes us to do is replace switches.
And people wonder why some of us call them Stealerships?
I have the receipt from the dealer in AZ, and I would go see an attorney, but suing General Motors? .



The dealer was wrong. There is a form to fill out and submit with copies of reciepts for repairs you paid for and you will be reimbursed. Some recalls even have that option listed on the recall notices. Another reason I hate dealerships! Also that dealer could have made a call on your behalf to the GM zone rep stating that you were just a few miles out of warranty and I am sure they would have repaired it under warranty or alteast offered some assistance. The dealership makes more money on out of warranty repairs - so they wanted the upcharge is my opinion there.

 

[A_Harman]

The saga continues:
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ge...-lied/79133640/

 

[bdcardinal]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
The dealer was wrong. There is a form to fill out and submit with copies of reciepts for repairs you paid for and you will be reimbursed. Some recalls even have that option listed on the recall notices. Another reason I hate dealerships! Also that dealer could have made a call on your behalf to the GM zone rep stating that you were just a few miles out of warranty and I am sure they would have repaired it under warranty or alteast offered some assistance. The dealership makes more money on out of warranty repairs - so they wanted the upcharge is my opinion there.


I can add that almost every service campaign from Ford has a form to fill out for customer reimbursement if they have previously paid for the repair.

 

[Silverado12]

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Originally Posted By: Ihatetochangeoil
Well...I can't post any spectacular links, the reader will decide whether to believe me or not. I own a 2004 Impala, purchased new in 2005 from a dealer no longer in existence. We took the car west on vacation in 2007 while still under warranty. We traveled far enough to be NOT under warranty anymore.
With the warranty expired by 36 miles, the speedometer and entire instrument cluster went nonfunctional coming down the west side of the Rockies with my 15 1/2 year old son behind the wheel getting some driving experience with mom and dad in the car. He pulled over and let dad drive. I pulled into Phoenix AZ, got mom and kids into a Hotel, and took the car a few blocks up the street to a local GM dealer; dropped it off for service and rented a car. 3 days and $2700 later, my car is fixed at the dealer. I picked it up, drove the few blocks to the Hotel, shut the key off. Don't remember why, but I tried to restart the car. Ignition switch jammed. Had car towed back to dealer, spent another $700.
Came home to St. Louis, almost exactly a year later the same switch died AGAIN. Towed to local dealer, replaced switch again. They called dealer in AZ who verified date I purchased new switch, and this time I paid only for "labor," about $200.
I recently started getting letters from GM (local dealer) that my car is under factory recall, it is "dangerous" to drive, and I need to bring it in for FREE parts and installation of an ignition switch. I called the dealer and asked them to just give me a check for $700. I was told "sorry" all the factory authorizes us to do is replace switches.
And people wonder why some of us call them Stealerships?
I have the receipt from the dealer in AZ, and I would go see an attorney, but suing General Motors?




How many miles was on the car when you bought it new? When I was a mechanic at a Honda dealer*, if the car was sold new with say 115 miles worth of test...drives on it, that was added to the warranty.
Keep that in mind people, you never know.

* Am now a semi mech at a bussiness where my union tells me who to vote for.


That story looked like something made up anyways. No way would an instrument cluster cost that much. I would have to see receipts to believe it, and even then I would buy a 100 dollar GPS to use as a speedo until I got home. A fool and his money... BTW the union tells you how to vote for a very good reason...