What is a CRZ?
The Entourage is a GAS HOG!!
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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: Troy_Built
What is a CRZ?
What is a CRZ?
I like it.
Originally Posted By: Troy_Built
What is a CRZ?
What is a CRZ?
I like it.
I actually really like the look of that entourage, which is saying something because I usually despise mini vans.
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
I guess you never heard the old saying about "If you can't say something nice..."
Very few people around here live by that excellent advice.
I guess you never heard the old saying about "If you can't say something nice..."
Very few people around here live by that excellent advice.
The good-looking new minivans we see are all throwbacks to the early 2000's Chrysler and Ford vans.
I think the 2002 Ford Windstar and the early 2000's Chrysler/Dodge vans w/chrome accents were pretty nice.
I think the 2002 Ford Windstar and the early 2000's Chrysler/Dodge vans w/chrome accents were pretty nice.
I don't understand why the entire automotive industry seems to be going backwards with the fuel economy thing. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO BUILD VEHICLES THAT EASILY GET 50-60 MPG OR MORE, BUT ALL WE CONTINUE TO GET ARE VEHICLES THAT GET 20 SOMETHING. What's it gonna take for automakers to start building high MPG vehicles? $5 gas? $6? This is getting ridiculous!!!!
Originally Posted By: grampi
What's it gonna take for automakers to start building high MPG vehicles?
They follow the market, pure and simple. It'll take consumers demanding, with their dollar, high MPG vehicles before automakers will build them. In September 2010, the top 2 selling vehicles were Ford F-150s and Chevrolet Silverados. You do the math.
What's it gonna take for automakers to start building high MPG vehicles?
They follow the market, pure and simple. It'll take consumers demanding, with their dollar, high MPG vehicles before automakers will build them. In September 2010, the top 2 selling vehicles were Ford F-150s and Chevrolet Silverados. You do the math.
If you really think it's not very good looking park it next to a Porsche Panamera. That monstrosity makes anything look good.
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
Originally Posted By: Jim 5
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
Just for fun I priced the most expensive 2010 Odyssey through Honda Canada's website ... drumroll please ... $72,000!!
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
Just for fun I priced the most expensive 2010 Odyssey through Honda Canada's website ... drumroll please ... $72,000!!
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
I am an unabashed Honda shill, but still think this is THE best looking minivan ever. I wouldn't buy a Chrysler because of my perception of their poor quality workmanship (at least in vans) - I'm thinking mostly of trans. But the styling is superior to all of the Japanese models IMO. The Honda vans have been largely ***** - with the Top Spot going to the 2011 Odyssey.
I am an unabashed Honda shill, but still think this is THE best looking minivan ever. I wouldn't buy a Chrysler because of my perception of their poor quality workmanship (at least in vans) - I'm thinking mostly of trans. But the styling is superior to all of the Japanese models IMO. The Honda vans have been largely ***** - with the Top Spot going to the 2011 Odyssey.
Originally Posted By: NJC
Originally Posted By: Jim 5
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
Just for fun I priced the most expensive 2010 Odyssey through Honda Canada's website ... drumroll please ... $72,000!!
That's why Honda invented the proven fictitious "canadian only" engine immobilizer to trick the government of Canada not to let US Hondas be imported. That treachery was revealed and cancelled. That's also why Honda Canada, unlike other manufacturers cancels new car warranties on cars imported to Canada as well.
Honda and BMW are very bad corporate citizens when it comes to their blatant efforts to protect their program of price gouging made just for Canadians.
Originally Posted By: Jim 5
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
40k for a minivan?! Holy cow
Multiply that by around 1.15 or 1.2 to get the best case Canadian price regardless of foreign exchange being at par.
Just for fun I priced the most expensive 2010 Odyssey through Honda Canada's website ... drumroll please ... $72,000!!
That's why Honda invented the proven fictitious "canadian only" engine immobilizer to trick the government of Canada not to let US Hondas be imported. That treachery was revealed and cancelled. That's also why Honda Canada, unlike other manufacturers cancels new car warranties on cars imported to Canada as well.
Honda and BMW are very bad corporate citizens when it comes to their blatant efforts to protect their program of price gouging made just for Canadians.
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Originally Posted By: NJC
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
I am an unabashed Honda shill, but still think this is THE best looking minivan ever.
You definitely gotta set looks aside prior to becoming a MV owner, but those Dodge/Chryslers look like big-ol Easter eggs.
The 2005-10 Ody is the least appalling to the eyeball IMO, with the Nissan Quest banana mobile and late model GM variants with the hog-snout being the UGLIEST.
Regardless of make/model/looks, they're all awesome vehicles for their intended purpose. Once you own one, it's hard to do without.
Joel
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
I am an unabashed Honda shill, but still think this is THE best looking minivan ever.
The 2005-10 Ody is the least appalling to the eyeball IMO, with the Nissan Quest banana mobile and late model GM variants with the hog-snout being the UGLIEST.
Regardless of make/model/looks, they're all awesome vehicles for their intended purpose. Once you own one, it's hard to do without.
Joel
My 97 silhouette short wheelbase also got 26.5-27 MPG pure highway, with AC on and at extra-legal speeds. It was the only year without a driver's sliding door and the resultant weight. The aerodynamics came at the cost of poor rear cylinder head access but what transverse V6 van doesn't have this problem? Poor chap who owned it before me paid for the IM gaskets....
It was "born" a few inches narrower than most American vans, so they could use the same chassis in Europe. I didn't miss the width; in fact, I think a 4x8 plywood barely fit between the wheel wells.
It wasn't 20-star crash rated, but there were some weird braces underneath that looked intended to augment crashworthiness.
It was "born" a few inches narrower than most American vans, so they could use the same chassis in Europe. I didn't miss the width; in fact, I think a 4x8 plywood barely fit between the wheel wells.
It wasn't 20-star crash rated, but there were some weird braces underneath that looked intended to augment crashworthiness.
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