Actually if you dig back over several years you'll see the Fruit phone people were trying to hose whomever they worked with. I honestly hope Apple goes absolutely bankrupt. Ford, GM, maybe Nissan, and BMW was their last hope. BMW said that Apple demanded them to spend exorbitant amounts of money only to have Apple demand a 90% profit. Whatever was left would go to the second party. Wow shocker the facist Fruit Company didn't want to invest just ride the coattails of the automotive manufacturer that did all the work. Apple, Tesla, and Microsoft should go bankrupt and leave their terrible employees on the street.
Tesla’s new competition in China, a cell phone company
- Thread starter alarmguy
- Start date
- Joined
- Oct 30, 2023
- Messages
- 35
Apple could do it -- their R&D power is God tier in the modern world. My theory is that they used some of their R&D to foresight trends and where EVs would go in the near future and maybe they saw something they didn't like and backed out. Apple loves money. These two things make it obvious to me as they saw something in their research and said "nope."
You could be right, they can always revisit it if they want.
- Joined
- Oct 30, 2023
- Messages
- 35
Oh for sure. Apple doesn't really give up like that unless they see it's not viable for long term profits with demand, or physics does not allow them to make something cool to their standards of quality (ie: the AirPower wireless charger lol).
It seems they've taken the wise approach to just watch. Besides, for now Apple CarPlay is one of the most wanted features of a car these days for shoppers.
Sure, and hybrids. My understanding is BYD ended their ICE vehicles and now makes hybrids and EVs.
Regardless of drive type, any car they sell is a car not made in America or by America's friends.
It makes perfect sense, and seeing recent TSLA stock action maybe it was a wise decision. Apple could start right where they left off at a drop of a hat, and money certainly isn't a problem for them.
This is true, and something I can't control. But rest assured I won't be buying anything from any of them.
You and me both, bro.
Well almost, I won't be buying a Tesla or a hybrid either. Unless I have no choice and hybrid is the only option because all ICE is gone.
Not sure what you mean about only the first quarter, but there won't be any Tesla's here, no matter what quarter it is.
- Joined
- Oct 30, 2023
- Messages
- 35
Same lol. Unless Tesla magically fixes their build quality and the car's handling dynamics, I would probably go with an EV BMW.Well almost, I won't be buying a Tesla or a hybrid either. Unless I have no choice and hybrid is the only option because all ICE is gone.
Anyone can take orders, make up vaporware and build some. Whether it is sustainable and competitive is another matter .
A mix of both for quite some time.
Apple likely did it to prevent being locked out of the entire market just in case. They and Google have the Carplay and Android auto market locked in and if Waymo / someone else got the monopoly there, they could lock out Apple completely in the ecosystem. They need at least enough patents to cross license with others to not get locked out is my guess on why they did it.
In the last several years we saw a bunch of Lexus RX with a sensor mattress on top driving around, that's definitely what Apple was testing their self driving electronics on, not an EV they make. Since most EVs are heading to a commodity direction and no risk of getting locked out, they decided to scrap the project. Their Siri should have been where ChatGPT is now but they are not, so they really need to catch up.
Xiaomi started as a portable battery bank company making their products based on surplus parts. They are the fast fashion company in electronics and phone industry, and they are opportunists selling what they can get in surplus price. Their EVs are definitely not high end products R&D like Tesla or even BYD, just something off the excess EVs R&D by someone already, probably also build with surplus parts. Apple likely don't want to cheapen its eco system with meh parts.
Xiaomi also created the Oculus Go with Facebook / Meta but their software sucks. While Oculus Go is still supported and work, Xiaomi's Mi VR is kind of meh despite being almost identical.
They probably think most people will buy their EV based off price and coolness, and not overpay for the Apple's touch. An unreliable Apple EV would make them look very bad, and throwing money at EV likely would make it too expensive to make and sell at the right quality.
Yeah, let’s get rid of that super successful American company called Apple and get those overseas imports really rolling in here so they could build weapons to blow us up with the profits.
The best part is will be moving all those high-tech jobs, what’s left of them overseas as well as all that investment money in the 401(k)s and Wall Street that have Apple and invest in and prop up the Chinese and Korean companies instead.
One thing for sure American corporations are rotten to the core right?
The heck with successful American companies, let’s support other countries after all all those corporations are post a child of everything fair and right.
(for those that don’t know the above is sarcasm, too bad we don’t have more successful companies like Apple as well as everything else instead of exporting those companies overseas)
Last edited:
Here is an English language initial impressions review of the car.
It's crazy that Chinese cell phone companies can make this using surplus parts without doing any R&D, yet Apple can't make any car at all.
It's crazy that Chinese cell phone companies can make this using surplus parts without doing any R&D, yet Apple can't make any car at all.
JHZR2
Staff member
Seriously. And it seems to correlate with other favored decisions.I love that everyone has to be a fanatic of some sort to buy a product you don't like.
JHZR2
Staff member
Strange, I’ve recently rented BMW x5 SUVs for extended drives and the one thing that works really well is CarPlay from my iPhone.
