Tesla Battery Replacement Costs

[JeffKeryk]

Add a few solar panels to the mix, and that's a recipe for next to nuthin fuel costs... Here's a couple of mine.

 

[JHZR2]

Are the EV owners charging from home actually paying their road tax for equivalent wear and tear on the roads? Set the per mile tax to the CAFE fleet requirement and ensure that it’s being paid…

 

[UncleDave]

Are the EV owners charging from home actually paying their road tax for equivalent wear and tear on the roads? Set the per mile tax to the CAFE fleet requirement and ensure that it’s being paid…

In calif you pay for the miles upfront per year when you register the car.
Maybe Jeff can shed some light on the rate.

 

[gman2304]

Add a few solar panels to the mix, and that's a recipe for next to nuthin fuel costs..

Unless you live above the Mason Dixon line.

 

[RooflessVW]

Add a few solar panels to the mix, and that's a recipe for next to nuthin fuel costs... Here's a couple of mine.
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Those were free!?

 

[JeffKeryk]

In calif you pay for the miles upfront per year when you register the car.
Maybe Jeff can shed some light on the rate.

My understanding is, $100 is added to the CA annual registration. Due to increased fuel efficiency,i t is likely in CA all cars will change to a mileage based, usage road tax scheme.
There is no free ride!

 

[Trav]

My Jaguar X-type (an old Ford really) has fuel costs of approx 12 to as high as 15c per mile (depending on where I purchase fuel) . 225,000 miles and the engine still runs perfectly (M1 5W-40 always)

A $22K Tesla battery at 120K/12 years has a cost of 18c per mile. This does not include elec power. Which, despite the claims, is nearly never 12c per KWh (yeah, you may get charged that at home, but add in fees, taxes and overages and it turns out to be MUCH higher). And 33 to 42c per KWh at public chargers. So 8c to 21c per mile for power, depending.

Camry/Accord Hybrids can operate at less than 10c per mile, fuel costs, in real world conditions.

My wife just paid my electric bill 0.15298c KWH + Delivery charges..
Distribution charge 11.96
Customer charge 10.00
Distributed solar charge 0.16
Energy Efficiency charge 0.25
Renewable resource charge 0.5
Transmission charge 3.11
Electric supplier service 7.53

For last month it was $186.31 with no A/C running, it will almost double that next month. The last thing I want to do is add an EV on this bill, I rather poke myself in the eye with a #2 Phillips.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Those were free!?

No, way better than free. Solar is an investment. Pay once cry once, as they say.
I am approaching break even, then it is all upside. Now I pay $0 to $11 per month for electricity, and I use my AC more than ever.
I did not plan on getting the Tesla when I decided to do the solar project, but thought I might some day. I asked for a larger system, because I figured I would use more electricity going forward. The EV gets me to break even faster and increases the solar project ROI. In CA, all energy costs are sky high. Solar is a no brainer here. It even increases the value of your home.
I love my solar.

 

[JeffKeryk]

For last month it was $186.31 with no A/C running, it will almost double that next month. The last thing I want to do is add an EV on this bill, I rather poke myself in the eye with a #2 Phillips.

This is exactly why I had solar installed. In my case, it was the biggest no brainer in the world.
I believe the average price arounf here is 24 cents per kWh. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[gregk24]

No, way better than free. Solar is an investment. Pay once cry once, as they say.
I am approaching break even, then it is all upside. Now I pay $0 to $11 per month for electricity, and I use my AC more than ever.
I did not plan on getting the Tesla when I decided to do the solar project, but thought I might some day. I asked for a larger system, because I figured I would use more electricity going forward. The EV gets me to break even faster and increases the solar project ROI. In CA, all energy costs are sky high. Solar is a no brainer here. It even increases the value of your home.
I love my solar.

What about replacement cost? And cost to remove and reinstall when a new roof is needed?

 

[JeffKeryk]

What about replacement cost? And cost to remove and reinstall when a new roof is needed?

You don't want to be in that sutuation. When you get close to closing the deal, the solar company gives you a detailed quote including all materials and recommendations.
In my case, my roof was at half life, or thereabouts based on their detailed evaluation. I thought it was worse... Then came the good part; you can add a new roof into the "solar project". I got a Federal tax credit for 30% of the entire project; panels and roof. CA also had a tax credit, but I did not meet the salary requirements. I may have been able to add the electrical work for the NEMA 14-50 recepticle in the garage, but I did not know I was getting an EV that soon. So my roof is new as well. I used high quality materials to keep the house cooler in the hot Los Gatos sun.
The panels are fully guaranteed for 20 years as I recall. Again, this was the biggest no brainer in the world. The numbers are so much in my favor.

 

[Skippy722]

Are the EV owners charging from home actually paying their road tax for equivalent wear and tear on the roads? Set the per mile tax to the CAFE fleet requirement and ensure that it’s being paid…

Depends on the state. Illinois and Indiana both charge EV owners more for their registration to make up for the lack of gas tax. Illinois is $100. Indiana charges $150 for EV’s and $50 for hybrids (on top of the excise tax which is age and initial MSRP based, registration fee, and transportation infrastructure improvement fee that all vehicles have to pay).

 

[gregk24]

You don't want to be in that sutuation. When you get close to closing the deal, the solar company gives you a detailed quote including all materials and recommendations.
In my case, my roof was at half life, or thereabouts based on their detailed evaluation. I thought it was worse... Then came the good part; you can add a new roof into the "solar project". I got a Federal tax credit for 30% of the entire project; panels and roof. CA also had a tax credit, but I did not meet the salary requirements. I may have been able to add the electrical work for the NEMA 14-50 recepticle in the garage, but I did not know I was getting an EV that soon. So my roof is new as well. I used high quality materials to keep the house cooler in the hot Los Gatos sun.
The panels are fully guaranteed for 20 years as I recall. Again, this was the biggest no brainer in the world. The numbers are so much in my favor.

I'm glad it has been working out for you. It doesn't make since for a lot of people.

 

[Ws6]

My Jaguar X-type (an old Ford really) has fuel costs of approx 12 to as high as 15c per mile (depending on where I purchase fuel) . 225,000 miles and the engine still runs perfectly (M1 5W-40 always)

A $22K Tesla battery at 120K/12 years has a cost of 18c per mile. This does not include elec power. Which, despite the claims, is nearly never 12c per KWh (yeah, you may get charged that at home, but add in fees, taxes and overages and it turns out to be MUCH higher). And 33 to 42c per KWh at public chargers. So 8c to 21c per mile for power, depending.

Camry/Accord Hybrids can operate at less than 10c per mile, fuel costs, in real world conditions.

I just got ahold of my last electric bill. My net usage was 213kWh. I was billed $53.74. I have a meter fee of $27.91. I have a county tax of $0.79. Doing the math that comes out to near bang-on $0.12/kWh. Just subtract $27.91+$0.79 from $53.73 and divide it out.

So I took another bill. Month before that one. I used 323kWh. I was billed $66.02. Subtract $28.70 from it and you get $37.32. Divide it out and it's $0.115/kWh.

So lets try a high bill from the dead of winter when it was -20 and snowing and my solar didn't do much...

I burned 2017kWh heating the house that month. It cost me $225.74. My county tax was higher, too, at $3.39. Add my meter fee of $27.91 to that and you get $31.30. Subtract this from $225.74 and you have $194.44. Divide it out. $0.096kWh...odd.

Oh well, my point is, I'm hovering at about $0.12/kWh no matter what I burn or when I burn it, minus about $30 in pretty flat-rate fees. The Volvo is kindof inefficient, getting around 40kWh/100 miles, or 0.4kWh/mile. So I'm going to be in at about 5 cents per mile with a $400 fee every 20K miles, and tires whenever those are due to be replaced.

Not shabby for a 400+hp AWD vehicle that will do 0-60 in a hair over 4 seconds.

 

[UncleDave]

So my roof is new as well. I used high quality materials to keep the house cooler in the hot Los Gatos sun.

In this process right now - curious what you picked.

I went with owens corning shasta white cool roofing which had the highest reflectance index of all their products.
Prob start a diff thread.

Never thought about rolling the roof into the solar and getting it perked as well hmmmmmmm.

 

[walterjay]

People earning $18.00 an hour cannot even come close to owning an EV or solar panels. Probably half of Americans cannot go that route.

 

[JeffKeryk]

In this process right now - curious what you picked.

I went with owens corning shasta white cool roofing which had the highest reflectance index of all their products.
Prob start a diff thread.

Never thought about rolling the roof into the solar and getting it perked as well hmmmmmmm.

I did not use the highest reflectance product; Los Gatos Roofing recommended Owens Corning something like that though. Closer to mid grade.
Basically, with the 30% tax credit, rolling the roof into the solar project, the roof was free.

Ultimately the $9 per month PG&E electric bill is the gift that keep on giving. Sometimes it's zero. And I have no problems running AC, charging cars, etc.

I used Infinity Solar outta Rocklin. The Costco Sunrun program is hard to beat as well. Good luck Dave.

 

[Audiman]

People earning $18.00 an hour cannot even come close to owning an EV or solar panels. Probably half of Americans cannot go that route.

And that unfortunately is the hard reality to a lot of things in life. The poor have less options than the rich so the rich can get richer. Only way to correct this is a communist state but we all know how that ends up.

I just got ahold of my last electric bill. My net usage was 213kWh. I was billed $53.74. I have a meter fee of $27.91. I have a county tax of $0.79. Doing the math that comes out to near bang-on $0.12/kWh. Just subtract $27.91+$0.79 from $53.73 and divide it out.

So I took another bill. Month before that one. I used 323kWh. I was billed $66.02. Subtract $28.70 from it and you get $37.32. Divide it out and it's $0.115/kWh.

So lets try a high bill from the dead of winter when it was -20 and snowing and my solar didn't do much...

I burned 2017kWh heating the house that month. It cost me $225.74. My county tax was higher, too, at $3.39. Add my meter fee of $27.91 to that and you get $31.30. Subtract this from $225.74 and you have $194.44. Divide it out. $0.096kWh...odd.

Oh well, my point is, I'm hovering at about $0.12/kWh no matter what I burn or when I burn it, minus about $30 in pretty flat-rate fees. The Volvo is kindof inefficient, getting around 40kWh/100 miles, or 0.4kWh/mile. So I'm going to be in at about 5 cents per mile with a $400 fee every 20K miles, and tires whenever those are due to be replaced.

Not shabby for a 400+hp AWD vehicle that will do 0-60 in a hair over 4 seconds.

It’s good to see some real world expenses. $5000 to do 100,000 miles at current prices. For me once the cars/ platforms have matured a bit so less prone to faults I might consider one for the wife.

 

[Pelican]

Just wait till more people make the jump and suddenly there will be a graduated charge price at these stations .... $++++ for a full charge (60 minutes) $ ++++++ for a faster charge and $ +++++++++++++++ for an even faster charge. Same as we have now for Reg Mid Premium.
Mark my words.

 

[nomas]

Solar can get expensive down the road . I just replaced the batteries in my sister's setup . $800 . The Inverter is not working properly . $1500 estimate for parts only . No free lunch forever .