Tell me about LC, FP and Auto-RX

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Okay, first, Im not an additive person. I have always felt if you used a good quality oil, then you really shouldnt have need for them. But as I have been reading through this board, I see these three products touted quite a bit and my curiosity has peaked. So I would like to know more and whether or not they would be of any benefit to me.

First: I have a 2000 Ford Focus ZX3 w/2.0L Zetec motor. It has nearly 100,000 miles on it. Ive used Amsoil since I bought it, primarily Series 2000 0W-30. I have an Amsoil Foam Filter in use as well. I have run Amsoil ATF as well since purchasing the car. Earlier this year I installed Amsoil's Dual Remote By-Pass filter system on the vehicle.

Second: Is the use of the bypass unit going to affect the use of any of these products, that is to say, filter them out perhaps? I know that sounds silly but it was in my mind to ask. Im mainly interested in Auto-RX at this point just because Im fanatical about keeping the internals as clean as possibly can be done. LC intrests me, but not so much at this point, but maybe someone can point something out that will make it more of a consideration to me.

The car has never had any problems other than a fuel pump failure that happened to occur when I was chasing a storm in Arkansas but that was a recall issue for that model year anyway. The only other issue Ive had with the car is that the thermostat housing leaked and had to be replaced. I just recently noticed that the valve cover gasket is leaking a very tiny amount of oil and I have it on the list of work to do soon. Other than that it runs great, runs strong and I really enjoy the vehicle despite it being a Ford, LOL (I had been a Pontiac person up to this point).

So how are these products going to benefit me? Ive looked at the web sites, but I would be more convinced from real world experiences I guess. One of my concerns is using something that is going to disrupt my OCI's, but I can deal with that if necessary, I was wanting to switch over to the Series 3000 5W30 anyway.

Another concern was if there does happen to be a fair amount of dirt or something like that (no sludge in the pan for fact cause I pulled it earlier this year when I attempted to install a set of crank scrapers and it was squeaky clean) in the motor and gets picked up by the filters, is there anyway to tell? I dont want the full flow going in bypass mode and just sending unfiltered oil back to the motor, and I think the bypass filter itself would clog up first anyway if there happens to be that much stuff in the motor, though I doubt it.

I guess thats about it. The products 'look' interesting and as I said, the curiosity is there. Im just concerned how it will all interact with my current set up. I push the car hard on occasion so I want to do all I can to keep 'er in good shape and able to provide me the fun driving she does.
 
I believe all your questions have been asked, answered and reported here.
Try searching and reading, its fun, informative and you will discover info you didn't know you were looking for.
 
What kind of OCI have you been running with the 0W30? Have you had any UOA done?

Fuel Power is supposed to be pretty good at keeping the S2K in check viscosity wise and helping reduce the oxidation the oil undergoes. I have only began using one of the 3 you mentioned - AutoRX in my 1994 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L.
 
LC- The verdict is still out in my book. In my limited use I have personally seen no benefit to this product.

FP- this is a real winner if your car has any difficulty (or not) with today's crappy gasoline.

AutoRx - any engine that has some good use on it and any car/truck engine with over 100K miles, even with synthetic can benifit from an AutoRx cleaning/double cleaning.

A bypass filter won't filter out AutoRx, but it sure would be expensive to replace the filters just for a cleaning cycle.

Is the 0w30 worth it to you? What OCI's do you use? Have you run a used oil analysis?
 
Okay, let me respond try and answer all the posts.

First, loudist, if you had read the beginning of my post, you would have clearly seen "But as I have been reading through this board, I see these three products touted quite a bit..." So thank you, but I have been searching and reading but thanks for trying just the same. I wanted a unified location for the information, and possible real world use for my particular vehicle which if you read you will see Jackpot provided and example of.

Next, for those that asked about my used oil analysis and OCI. I have normally done the 1 year oil change with a filter change at six months but have not done any used oil analysis. When I installed the by-pass system I decided that I wanted to know more about what was going on with the oil and started doing used oil analysis. My original plan was to do one every 3000 miles, but due to time, work and other factors that has not has not happened. When I installed the by-pass system I switched to the Series 2000 0W30 and I had the first used oil analysis done at 8000 miles. But at that time, I was dropping the oil pan to try install a set of crank scrapers so I went a head and changed the oil at that time and installed new filters. The used oil analysis showed low wear numbers IMO and everything looked perfect except that it had already just slightly pushed out of the 30W range with viscosity at 12.8.

Just before Christmas I had another used oil analysis done but I have yet recieved the results back from that. Im hoping that they come in the first of the week. If the 0W30 continutes to show early signs of going out of the 30W class I will probably go to the Series 3000 5W30. I think it would hold up better anyway for the type of driving I do.

So, to answer your question directly Pablo, if the 0W30 holds up, then yes it is worth it to me. However I wouldnt be afraid to try another Amsoil product to see how it worked out.

I realize with the bypass set up it would be an expensive venture to run a cleaning cycle with the AutoRX, but I had thought that when it comes time to change out everything 0W30, bypass and full flow filter, I could use a cheaper oil such as Amsoils XL7500 line up and run a cleaning cycle with that. Still pricey, but it would help and to me it would be worth it to keep the internals even further maintained.

I would love to hear more about AutoRX and personal stories of its use and if anyone happens to have any before and after pics, all the better. I dont mind using an additive or cleaner, but it better well 'WOW' me on a major scale or it wont get much consideration, so Im looking for anyones input regardless of vehicle, but obviously anyone using it with a Focus would be a bonus.

Jackpot01, thanks for your input, and I have a link for you below this you may want to check out. Since you mentioned the FP use, I'll ask you and anyone else that may know, does the FP cause any trouble with the O2 sensors? I would imagine not, but it never hurts to ask.

I have a scan tool that I hook up to the car every so often that I can graph out sensor readings and other basic parameters and Ive seen some fuel additives do some weird things to those O2 sensors. So I dont want to use anything that would do some long term damage.

Okay, well thanks to everyone so far. Keep the input coming.
 
The one you left out of your list is Neutra. It can be used as both an engine cleaner and a fuel system cleaner.

I have tried Neutra, Fuel Power (fuel system only for FP), Lube Control, and Auto-RX.

I have little question that Auto-RX works. After I cleaned my engine in my previous car with it a small seal leak stopped.

I have noticed an improvement in car performance after using Neutra in the fuel tank. Neutra can also be used for cleaning engines. Neutra has a powerful smell that does not bother me much.

I have also tried Fuel Power and Lube Control. They both have smells that I find overpowering. I had a very good UOA after using Schaeffer's Oil and Lube Control in my engine. Fuel Power is used in the fuel and Lube Control in the engine.

Personally myself I would rather use Auto-RX to clean an engine then Lube Control. Lube Control probably does keep an engine clean though and it apparently prevents oil oxidation.

If you want a really cheap engine cleaner that can also be used as a fuel system cleaner Neutra fits that role.
 
I'd say that as circumspect as you are with maintenance, there is little that an oil additive will do for you. A fuel additive may be another story. I might try a 3 qz dose of A-Rx for a few OCIs in your shoes. JMO
 
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Originally posted by SyntheticShield:
Okay, let me respond try and answer all the posts.

First, loudist, if you had read the beginning of my post, you would have clearly seen "But as I have been reading through this board, I see these three products touted quite a bit..." So thank you, but I have been searching and reading but thanks for trying just the same.

I wanted a unified location for the information, and possible real world use for my particular vehicle which if you read you will see Jackpot provided and example of.


I still stand by my reply.
Without question your answers are already on this board.

Try the search feature, search terms; focus zetec, more posts than you can shake a stick at.
So many it scared me.
If you want to comiserate with other Focus owners, more power to you, but your questions are a challange of folks to convince you.
No thank you.
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I realize with the bypass set up it would be an expensive venture to run a cleaning cycle with the AutoRX, but I had thought that when it comes time to change out everything 0W30, bypass and full flow filter, I could use a cheaper oil such as Amsoils XL7500 line up and run a cleaning cycle with that. Still pricey, but it would help and to me it would be worth it to keep the internals even further maintained.

I would love to hear more about AutoRX and personal stories of its use and if anyone happens to have any before and after pics, all the better. I dont mind using an additive or cleaner, but it better well 'WOW' me on a major scale or it wont get much consideration, so Im looking for anyones input regardless of vehicle, but obviously anyone using it with a Focus would be a bonus.


Again, search feature. There are so many posts of what you want, ad nausium.(except for that wanting it all on one thread for your convenience).

If you have been to the Arx site or read 5 posts concerning Arx, you would know that it is preferable to have a conventional oil for cleaning, and a requirement for the rinse phase.
Its not difficult to research these answers you seek.

I think you are lazy, haven't put effort into any research, and want to be spoon fed.
How convenient for you.

There is something else at play in your posts, I can't quite put my finger on it yet...
 
I would love to see pics of your Bypass setup. I have an 01 Focus and I am interested in adding one to my car this summer sometime.

As far as the FP goes, I have been using it in my Focus for about 2 months now, the car loves it. It just idles smoother and pulls a lil more. You will love it. If you do the math, dollar for dollar its alot cheaper than getting those 3-4 dollar injector cleaners.

I am using LC in my oil also. I am going 6000miles on Royal Purple Racing oil so at 3000miles I put a few oz of LC. I am gonna be waiting a while to get the UOA since I wont be driving the car much till April.

Eric
 
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