JTK
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One negative I've found with this unit. So far I'm not a fan of the pouring ability of the thermal carafe. It can be a real dribbler.
Technivorm Moccamaster 79112 KBT Coffee Brewer@Amazon 54% off.
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The Zojirushi with the thermal carafe is awesome.
Proper 200 degree bloom blooming, and it stays hot for hours.
GON
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What I do with the Zojirushi is pre-heat the thermal cafe before brewing a pot of coffee. Works exceptionally well in keeping the coffee hot, and also the coffee does not cool when it enters the garage from the unit during brewing.
Makes total sense.
When I actually care I'll pre heat and cool passive thermal containers. It goes a long way.
Zojirushi makes both vacuum glass and SS thermal containers, which is the coffee pot?
I like about is the way it pours - the spout and lever actually function like you'd hope they would.
It's up to $225 now. This was an excellent deal. I have a Bonavita coffee maker that won't die. Otherwise I would have gotten it. These are supposed to be even better, but the Bonavita was also an SCA pick when I got it.
Bonavita is good, I have one as backup.. the thermal carafe REALLY BAD. cant pour with lid off.. and does not empty all the way.
otherwise the coffee is somewhat comparable
Since I brew then pour in a 20oz zojirushi 5min later I prefer burner style with normal glass coffee carafe
otherwise the coffee is somewhat comparable
Since I brew then pour in a 20oz zojirushi 5min later I prefer burner style with normal glass coffee carafe
Ah, I can see you know the Bonavita well. Agree; the carafe is very bad. It even leaks if you don't tighten the lid extremely tight. And it is a pain to get everything out. The coffee is great though. Mine is probably 13 years old or so. I'm on my second carafe. The glass broke on my first one. They were nice and gave me a big discount on my second one when I called in, since i was a long standing customer. I also loved their coffee scale for espresso, but it eventually gave up the ghost.
Glad to hear the coffee is comparable! I'd get a Technivorm next to try out another one.
JTK
$100 Site Donor 2025
I've brewed many pots through the new Technivorm moccamaster over the holiday with friends and family over. The pour dribbling I mentioned above isn't really an issue. It's more user error getting used to the thermal carafe. Gotta be patient with it. It doesn't dispense a large volume quickly. I like a good cup of coffee and folks know they're going to get a good cup from me, but everyone who had it, mentioned how extra good it was this time, which led to the whole moccamaster show and tell. LOL. I've been using my normal go-to grind, which is Tim Hortons original blend. We buy it by the 32.8oz can.
I've never owned a particularly remarkable brewer before this one. They don't call me Mr. Excitement for nothing I tell ya.
I've never owned a particularly remarkable brewer before this one. They don't call me Mr. Excitement for nothing I tell ya.
+1 you gain flavor by grinding it right before brewing..
the next step is using better coffee such as a local roaster.
where the beans dont sit on shelf for 3-9 months.
its the "absolute" best 3days to 45 days old.
but the fall off is very slow.. however OLD dried out coffee is definitely inferior.
The sams club whole bean medium dark roast is pretty decent for mass market and value.
or costco Kirkland Colombian Supremo
an example of amazing would be
Redbird roasting
https://www.redbirdroasting.com/
but they are significantly NOT CHEAP.. (why I roast my own beans)
As far as a grinder recommedation..
Baratza Encore
is on sale for $120 right now at various places including amazon.its alot of grinder for the price. All the money goes into the burrs on these
its basic machine otherwise. (no timer etc)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007F183LK?
If thats abit much this OXO at $75 is a good buy currently
https://www.amazon.com/OXO-BREW-Conical-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B07CSKGLMM?
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HAHA. I could have written this! Exactly what I would recommend. We use the Kirkland dark roast coffee too for drip coffee. Except I have a Bunnzilla with the Swiss Ditting burrs.
I even use Red Bird for my espresso beans. Baratza Vario for the espresso grinder.
This does make one good pot of coffee! I just used the last of the 3 filters provided so I need to pick some up.
After brewing, I remove the brewing insert from the carafe and replace it with the solid cap. When I pour I remove it completely and haven't had any issue with splash or dribble. I am shocked how hot that carafe keeps the coffee even after an hour.
JTK
$100 Site Donor 2025
It really does make a great pot of coffee FAST and I am also surprised at how hot the carafe keeps the coffee.
I've found the 7 scoop recommendation with the Technivorm provided scoop equates to 5 scoops with the "standard" 1/8 cup (30ml) stainless steel coffee scoop I've had for years.
These are the filters I've been using. I ran out of the factory supplied ones the first day or two. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F2FFFFP5?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
Not a bad price, but you can actually get the name brand Melitta ones for cheaper at Target or Walmart. I know it's splitting hairs and not a big difference, but in case anyone is already going to Walmart or Target.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Melitta-4-Natural-Brown-Cone-Coffee-Filters-100-Ct/21686016
I bought this Mocamaster about 2 weeks ago and have to say that I’m no coffee expert, but this thing makes a great cup of coffee! I went down this coffee rabbit hole ( experimented with grinders, beans, a French press, and on and on ) about 15 years ago and was convinced the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze, in time, and $’s. I was always curious about the Mocamaster machines and When the price dropped by 50% I pulled the trigger. I’ve always poured my fresh pot of coffee into an insulated carafe within minutes of brewing, so this model without the hot plate in fact is a plus IMO and the carafe keeps the coffee very hot for a couple of hours. My Ninja drip coffee maker has been relegated to a plan B status at least for the foreseeable future. I’m still using the peasant folks Folgers black silk, and don’t plan on changing.
If you ever decide to even slightly upgrade your beans and grind your own with even an entry level Baratza grinder, the coffee might just completely blow your mind.
We love the Costco Kirkland espresso roast. It's also reasonably priced which is great and rare to find these days.
JTK
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Anyone have experiences to share in regards to descaling your Moccamaster? The recommended descaling of the unit after 100 cycles got away from me. I had more like 200 cycles with mine (6 months) and noticed a definite decline in the flavor of the coffee. The unit still brewed a pot quickly, but the water must have not been reaching the appropriate extraction temperature. I'm new to the fancy coffee thing, so please forgive my ignorance. I bought a bottle of liquid descaler from Urnex and ran a cycle with it. It brought her right back to life! I don't recall any other brewer I've owned being effected so quickly.
15 years with no descale…
Cheap coffee makers don't get the water hot enough and don't maintain the same temperature throughout the brew. It makes a difference in the flavor. I have a Bonavita which I used for a few years and it was a big improvement over a cheap coffee maker.
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