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Originally Posted By: Andyge
saturnsc2,

The little car was that way when I got it new from the dealer tell the day I sold it sold it.

Andy
it should have been repaired under warranty...
 
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
If you use a synthetic, the "thicker" ones like SYNTEC 0W-30, Mobil 1 0W-40/High Mileage 10w30 are said to be your best bet...
my car calls out for 5w30, so i bought valvoline synpower full synthetic 5w30. i'm waiting to do my next oil change.
 
is there a thickness difference bwtween synthetic & conventional oils of the same weight, for example 5w30 synthetic vs 5w30 conventional?
 
I would not waste my money on synthetic oil and just get a good conventional oil. (OCI 3,500-4,000)

Andy
 
Because the Saturn S-series engines were built without oil return holes in the oil ring grooves (at least the earlier ones), engine oil tends to coke in the grooves. When the oil rings stop moving freely, these engines start burning oil.

I would use a 0w30 or 5w30 synthetic HDEO in your engine. Synthetics because of their higher temperature stability and HDEO maintain ring cleanliness.
 
Originally Posted By: saturnsc2
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
If you use a synthetic, the "thicker" ones like SYNTEC 0W-30, Mobil 1 0W-40/High Mileage 10w30 are said to be your best bet...
my car calls out for 5w30, so i bought valvoline synpower full synthetic 5w30. i'm waiting to do my next oil change.


I used both oils with no problems and your engine isn't particularly sensitive. Some even used 15w40 HDEO in summer months, although for most this is overkill unless you're burning a lot of oil. In any case, every oil I listed has has a low pour point but is typically thicker at operating temperature...

Originally Posted By: saturnsc2
is there a thickness difference bwtween synthetic & conventional oils of the same weight, for example 5w30 synthetic vs 5w30 conventional?


That depends more on the formulations. I believe most synthetics, such as Synpower or PP, tend to be pretty much the same at temp. as conventionals. I was doing a lot of summer highway driving with my ol' SL2, so I wanted a thicker oil at temp. I also had good luck with Valvoline MaxLife 10w30/40 for reducing consumption to about one quart every 3500-4000 from a quart every 2000-2500 with conventional...
 
Originally Posted By: fraso
Because the Saturn S-series engines were built without oil return holes in the oil ring grooves (at least the earlier ones), engine oil tends to coke in the grooves. When the oil rings stop moving freely, these engines start burning oil.

I would use a 0w30 or 5w30 synthetic HDEO in your engine. Synthetics because of their higher temperature stability and HDEO maintain ring cleanliness.
exactly that's what i think also...
 
Originally Posted By: hounddog
Just a cloned Vega motor.Northstar is two Vega motors welded together.

I guess you're just being critical and sarcastic. if you were trying for humor, you failed.
anyway, whoever stated it's an oil return problem, is right. for some reason, they didn't put any oil return holes in the pistons. regardless, it's a good engine, simple and easy to work on and will go many many miles. I've seen ones run down to less than a qt and they kept running for a long time (after oil added of course!) and I've seen them go for a long time w/o any oil changes at all. some guys just top it off whenever they get gas.
someone else asked about why they don't make them anymore; the S series ran from '91 to '02 w/ the same basic, hardly any changes engine. how long does anyone do that and remain viable?
 
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