synthetic blend oils ???

[HoldTight]

What is synthetic blend oils used for? Can you run them longer? are they better then dino? I was considering using it in my 100k mile civic when I change oil today. I might use this as a step towards going to full sythetic in the future.
Any thoughts?

HoldTight...

 

[dave1251]

My thoughts are the if your not going to use a blend like tropartic or ford motorcraft that are less money than a brand name conventonial, dont spend the extra money. Use pennzoil,havoline,or chevron. Also I think you should not spend the extra money for a synthetic in 100K civic unless synthetic was used before. But you should run an Auto RX application to clean your engine.

 

[HoldTight]

Hmmmmm!! AutoRX that is a good idea. I have been running Quacker State since 45k but I have gone over 3k miles a few times so I think AutoRX may be the way to go.

Thanks

HoldTight...

 

[Dick in Falls Church]

Synthetic blend oils are great profit centers for the oil companies. The amount of synthetic in them is unknown, but could be as little as an ounce or two.

 

[bruce381]

You are right I talked another blender the other day and we decided that syn blend run from all GPII or GPIII at as low as 5% as far as I know a syn blend could be about any ratio of base stock
or I could even say that my syn blend is that way due to the SYNTHETIC add Package LOL. For my own use I think a real syn blend should have at least 40% PAO.
Bruce

 

[sxg6]

quote:

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Originally posted by HoldTight:
I have gone over 3k miles a few times so I think AutoRX may be the way to go.

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with a civic i wouldnt worry much about this. they're not very hard on oil.

 

[HoldTight]

[/qb][/QUOTE]with a civic i wouldnt worry much about this. they're not very hard on oil. [/QB][/QUOTE]

I am glad to here that. I plan on getting back on track with regular oil changes.

HoldTight....

 

[MIAMI-DADE]

I usally bring one quart of syntheic with me to the whoever changes my oil so i know there is a one full quart.

I only started using the blend at 90k so i don't want to use full syn. and worry about leaks as i already have enough problems.I know of people having severe leaks when starting full syntheics at 50k and above.I use Motorcraft and sometimes Castrol 5w30 in my 99 4.6 Marquis.

The oil change place i usally go to wants 40 bucks to change with semi-synthic.That makes no sense since you don't even know what your getting.

 

[TallPaul]

I have repeatedly called Valvoline and been told that Durablend is 30% synthetic. I would think other oil companies would release that information.

 

[Whimsey]

I think the Schaeffer's Blends are touted as being 25%+/- PAO and the rest Group II+ plus a killer additive package. Plus it provides really great UOA results. Personal results with a "hard on the oil" 2002 V-6 Explorer showed real good results with 8,200 miles on the oil with no additional additives used.

As said previously with many "synthetic blend oils" it's a crap shoot as to how much is synthetic and how "synthetic" is it, IE Group III "synthetic" versus true Group IV synthetic.

It's best to check bob's archieves and see which synthetic blends performed best with your type of driving and vehicle.

Whimsey

 

[jimcor]

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Mix your own synthetic blend in 2-1 proportions using 66% conventional & 34% synthetic with quart jugs off the store shelf.

 

[mdocod]

this thread has me curious.. doesn't really apply to anything I plan on doing in my engine... but- some folks seem to think, that making your own "brews" is fine, others are suggesting that mixing oils may cause improper balances in the add-packs leading to premature oil failure. I tend to lean towards the idea that most "home-brew" blends are probably fine when you consider, that all oils are essencially using some variation of the same add-pack options. Adding "addatives" probably has a much more intrusive effect on an oils stability (depending on the addative chosen, of cource)

Maybe someday- someone will buy 1 quart of everything on the shelf, mix it all together, run it in and engine and post a UOA, hehe.


I like Daves suggestion- If you are interested in a syn-blend, use one that not only gives a better oil, but is cheaper or similarly priced at the same time. The penz/castrol/qs/mobil/valvoline blends are a ripoff when you compare actual syn-content to a 100% synthetic. Trop-arctic seems to be proving itself around here...

On another note... I was looking at a thread on here recently... where someone posted UOAs from the last 60k or so (also on a honda), all OCs were with Exxon superflow (Mobil driveclean 5000), the UOAs were great (according to the more informed member responces). And exxon is cheap.

 

[Luft]

I wouldn't worry too much about switching a 100kmile Civic over to synthetic. I did mine at ~135kmiles to Mobil1 and it's fine. In fact not only did it leak but when I did my first change at 3k to make sure everything was fine it was still a sweet golden amber when it came out and none had leaked or burned. Civics are very good about oil; if you haven't run dino 2-3x as long as you should regularly I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by mdocod:
Maybe someday- someone will buy 1 quart of everything on the shelf, mix it all together, run it in and engine and post a UOA, hehe.

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Hey, that's a fun idea. I may have to try it sometime. Bet someone on this site already has.

Check this out:
Oil mixing thread.

 

[Ray H]

The TropArtic Synthetic Blend (and its companion 76, Kendall, and Conoco corporate clones whose product data sheets' text read identically except for brand designation) look very good on paper. The great unknown about these ConocoPhillips synthetic blends (Group III/Group II) is that we have no UOAs on them in the various viscosity grades yet to compare with another ConocoPhillips-made motor oil: Motorcraft. One notable exception was a UOA on Kendall GT-1 5w30 (I hope my memory's right about this - in any event it's in the UOA section for anyone wishing to do a search), a couple months ago and it compared very favorably with one on Motorcraft 5w30 at about the same time. I believe both were "SM"/"GF-4". ConocoPhillips does not state on the bottles the percentage of Group III, but several BITOGers have contacted the company's reps on their own and been told that the Group III synthetic content is "at least" 50%. The bad news about the TropArtic is that Dollar Tree stores don't seem to be replenishing stock. The good news is that Wal-Mart appears to be ramping up carriage - $1.28/qt in So-Cal. As to the idea of "rolling your own" by mixing - probably safe. The old myth of catastrophic gelling in the sump from dreaded "additive clash" has been pretty much debunked - even on BITOG!

 

[Eddie]

I too wonder about the percentage of synthetic in the blends. I think if I were to blend I would mix 1 to 1 from the same manufacture. i.e. Mobil 5000 & Mobil 1. I am still causous about mixing some of the newly formulated add packs.