switched to VALVOLINE Synpower from PENNZOIL ...

[smokey1]

Originally Posted By: steve20
I love Yotas- have had 2 of them in the last 10 years-but to me the Yaris looks like it's a throw away-how does it drive?
very good for it's size . Actaully , on par with our '07 PRIUS . The sedans that we've test drove seem even better than the YARIS Liftback . Give both a try . It's free . Hard to deal with most sales people tho .

 

[panthermike]

I test drove a yaris sedan when they first came out. I was actually surprised at how it drove, pretty nice and comfortable.

 

[Mau]

went from M1 to PP and noticed the motor was quieter with PP.

PP is a very good oil, I LOVE IT!

 

[SRBowen87]

Originally Posted By: Mucho_MPG
No, that'd be that wretched Colorado pickup with 5 cylinders.
I love mine, good power and cant complain about a 23 - 24 mpg truck. VERY smooth engine.

 

[strombony]

I've used almost every brand out there, and I swear it seems that YB Pennzoil is the smoothest, quietest oil in my car. I don't use synthetic. Is it placebo? might be, who knows.

 

[lazaro]

conventional oil allows plenty of metal to metal contact,especially during cold starts

I/E "LOUDER"

. . .

 

[strombony]

Originally Posted By: lazaro
conventional oil allows plenty of metal to metal contact,especially during cold starts

I/E "LOUDER"

. . .


Total rubbish! And if this were true, then you would have plenty more vehicles not lasting as long as they do on conventional oils.

 

[strombony]

Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: lazaro
conventional oil allows plenty of metal to metal contact,especially during cold starts

I/E "LOUDER"

. . .


Total rubbish! And if this were true, then you would have plenty more vehicles not lasting as long as they do on conventional oils.


Wow! Anyone else sounding the "B to the S" alarm here? LOL

 

[strombony]

Johnny, Bill In Utah, Tallpaul... How did you guys ever make it on that horrible, metal to metal phenomena that occurred within your engines using conventional oil, yet got all those hundreds of thousands of miles out of those engines? lazaro would like to know the secret.

 

[lazaro]

Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: lazaro
conventional oil allows plenty of metal to metal contact,especially during cold starts

I/E "LOUDER"

. . .


Total rubbish! And if this were true, then you would have plenty more vehicles not lasting as long as they do on conventional oils.


Wow! Anyone else sounding the "B to the S" alarm here? LOL

the only reason I say that, is because I have opened up enough oil filters to see the metals in the filter media, with engines using conventional oil.
I have plenty of examples I could show you.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: lazaro
conventional oil allows plenty of metal to metal contact,especially during cold starts

I/E "LOUDER"

. . .


Total rubbish! And if this were true, then you would have plenty more vehicles not lasting as long as they do on conventional oils.


I have to agree with Strombony too. I`ve seen several cars (still going strong) on conventional oil with outrageous mileage:

My dad`s Olds 88 (somewhere between the 400-500k mark,Pennz dino 10W30 since new).

Friends 300ZX twin turbo (nearing 300k miles,Pennz dino 20W50 only w/original turbos).

Another friend`s 300ZX twin turbo (nearing 400k,GTX 20W50 since new w/original turbos).

Me,I switched back to dino and my car couldn`t be happier :^)

 

[strombony]

lazaro, YB Pennzoil is a Group II+. It doesn't get any better than that for conventional. At this point, the only difference is extension of drain between conventional and syn, or how the car is driven. For the average dope who cruises back and forth to friends houses and to work, conventional is all that is EVER needed.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: strombony
Johnny, Bill In Utah, Tallpaul... How did you guys ever make it on that horrible, metal to metal phenomena that occurred within your engines using conventional oil, yet got all those hundreds of thousands of miles out of those engines? lazaro would like to know the secret.


I think the secret is to do the following;

1. Click on lazaro's user name on the left of the screen.
2. click on View Profile
3. Click on Ignore this user

Because this guy knows nothing. Just spews lack of information.

He is here for one reason, to push what he "thinks" is the best oil. If you do not run the brand of oil he is pushing, your engine will die.

I've bought Amsoil and run it in my cars. Its an excellent oil BUT it is not the only oil. The real secret to long life engines is to change oil. Some oils can go longer and maybe you will get long life but ALL OILS NEED TO BE CHANGED.

His comment is just absurd.

This board should be taking comments like his (and he has made many) untruths and ban his postings as he does not contribute *anything* to actual truth to threads.

So, if everybody ignores him he will go away and stop hurting Amsoil's rep...

Take care, bill

 

[buster]

lazaro, go push Amsoil somewhere else. Your claims are B/S.

 

[Jaymus]

Looking at UOA's, conventional oils tend to return just as good of UOA's, and sometimes better, than synthetic oils.

I see synthetic oils needed only if:
You are running a supercharger/turbocharger.
You are taking your car to the track (and then it's a maybe).
You must have 8-12k OCI's.
You live in an extremely cold climate.

 

[Audi Junkie]

I like how the "metal contact" happens when cold, and the oil is insanely thick...conventional being even thicker!

 

[Cmarti]

While I do not doubt the lubrication properties of conventional, I still remain curious if a true group 4 or 5 will sludge, coke or varnish as bad as a group 2. Or am I just subject to the marketing hype, and the old Mobil One vs. conventional in a frying pan. That would be a consideration in my purchase, if a synthetic ran "cleaner". I will defer to the chemists and oil pros on the board to answer that one.

p.s. How did we get on conventional v syn, when the original poster switched from a gourp III to a group III?