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I will tell you how to deal with this problem. Go buy a used cell phone do not get it turned on, 911 still works. Call 911 with that cell phone and tell them that guy is 10-96 and needs a welfare check. Also tell them he is always 56. Do not tell the dispatchers your nome.
My gnarly old coonhound will castrate you if you come on my property when I'm not around. She's sweet if I'm there but she does not like strangers at all.
Just ask the plumber who thought she was nice and then came back an hour later looking for lost tools! He could not even open the gate.
It doesn't need to be big, ANY loud obnoxious dog will deter most burglars. A local LEO friend of mine has a recording of a big dog that plays loudly when you come to his door as his kids are allergic.
Just ask the plumber who thought she was nice and then came back an hour later looking for lost tools! He could not even open the gate.
It doesn't need to be big, ANY loud obnoxious dog will deter most burglars. A local LEO friend of mine has a recording of a big dog that plays loudly when you come to his door as his kids are allergic.
Get a webcam you can check on from work. They have motion sensing now too and will record/ email if motion is over a certain threshold.
I'd get some "gun nut" bumper stickers and t-shirts, hang the t-shirts on a clothesline where they can read them.
I'd get some "gun nut" bumper stickers and t-shirts, hang the t-shirts on a clothesline where they can read them.
A CCL, with the training needed, and a carry weapon that you always, and I mean always, have with you is a good first step.
A real gun nut isn't the guy with 30 guns in a cabinet, a real gun nut is the guy with one gun, who practices every week, and takes that gun with him, even in the bathroom...
Next - the webcam, that records somewhere offsite (no SD card to steal, information persists, even if the camera doesn't...).
Next, your 80lb dog needs a pal to play with. I once owned an Irish Wolfhound - she was a wonderful dog, gentle with the kids, playful with other dogs, and faster than anything I've ever seen (bred to hunt by running down game, she was faster than any other dog)...she would let my 5 year old tug on her ears, and my 10 year old lie on her...but when someone she didn't know came to the house, watch out!
Our house had a door with a half window in it...She was right there, front paws above the doorframe (you read that right...above the doorframe) and 140 lbs of dog and teeth right in the face of the person at the door....barking and growling...when up on her hind legs, she looked me in the eye, and I'm over 6'...
First time the UPS guy came to the house, he ran, and I had to convince the poor guy that his life wasn't in danger before he would get out of his truck...other folks had similar experiences...
But if you get one, and they are the greatest dogs, be kind, take the wolfhound out to run every day...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Wolfhound
A real gun nut isn't the guy with 30 guns in a cabinet, a real gun nut is the guy with one gun, who practices every week, and takes that gun with him, even in the bathroom...
Next - the webcam, that records somewhere offsite (no SD card to steal, information persists, even if the camera doesn't...).
Next, your 80lb dog needs a pal to play with. I once owned an Irish Wolfhound - she was a wonderful dog, gentle with the kids, playful with other dogs, and faster than anything I've ever seen (bred to hunt by running down game, she was faster than any other dog)...she would let my 5 year old tug on her ears, and my 10 year old lie on her...but when someone she didn't know came to the house, watch out!
Our house had a door with a half window in it...She was right there, front paws above the doorframe (you read that right...above the doorframe) and 140 lbs of dog and teeth right in the face of the person at the door....barking and growling...when up on her hind legs, she looked me in the eye, and I'm over 6'...
First time the UPS guy came to the house, he ran, and I had to convince the poor guy that his life wasn't in danger before he would get out of his truck...other folks had similar experiences...
But if you get one, and they are the greatest dogs, be kind, take the wolfhound out to run every day...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Wolfhound
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You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
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Originally Posted By: doitmyself
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard of strangers.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for being bit on someone else's property.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
I would definitely be worried about that. Not about the old person entering your home (you may be wrong for leaving your home unlocked, but they were wrong for intruding), but because of the potential for a change in mind at some point causing a bite at who knows when.
Big dogs are a liability, no matter how nice/cute/wonderful they are... Sometimes it is worth it, sometimes not.
Unfortunately those who dont think about this stuff ruin it for the rest of us.
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard of strangers.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for being bit on someone else's property.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
I would definitely be worried about that. Not about the old person entering your home (you may be wrong for leaving your home unlocked, but they were wrong for intruding), but because of the potential for a change in mind at some point causing a bite at who knows when.
Big dogs are a liability, no matter how nice/cute/wonderful they are... Sometimes it is worth it, sometimes not.
Unfortunately those who dont think about this stuff ruin it for the rest of us.
I hate to say it, but it sounds like you need to move.
You dont have suspicious persons, but horrible neighbors.
Get a real alarm system installed. It's a bit of a ripoff with the contract & monthly fees, but well worth it.
The internet/recording/emailing video cameras and motion detector lights are also a great idea. You can also get CFLs at home depot which turn on automatically at dark and use very little electricity and are inexpensive. They also have driveway (or any pass through area) monitors at Home Depot which sound an audible alarm inside the house to let you know if you need to get up and "see who is there".
You dont have suspicious persons, but horrible neighbors.
Get a real alarm system installed. It's a bit of a ripoff with the contract & monthly fees, but well worth it.
The internet/recording/emailing video cameras and motion detector lights are also a great idea. You can also get CFLs at home depot which turn on automatically at dark and use very little electricity and are inexpensive. They also have driveway (or any pass through area) monitors at Home Depot which sound an audible alarm inside the house to let you know if you need to get up and "see who is there".
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
This is what I want:
Talk about your HE**HOUNDS, that thing looks absolutely EVIL!!!
Even a zombiefied meth/crackhead would have the fear of the lord (or devil as the case may be) put into them by THAT monster!!
This is what I want:
Talk about your HE**HOUNDS, that thing looks absolutely EVIL!!!
Even a zombiefied meth/crackhead would have the fear of the lord (or devil as the case may be) put into them by THAT monster!!
We keep our big "mean" dogs(Maremma's) in our pasture but they are livestock guardian dogs, which means they have to be gentle enough to deal with goat kids jumping on them all day but then scare the carp out of predators when they show up.
We spent quite a bit of time with the dogs and with our friends kids to make sure they understand that they have to put up with some abuse and aren't overly aggresive.
Enzo jumps the fence when he feels like it but I don't worry about him attacking the UPS guy when we aren't home.
Their temperment is probably very good for a home defense dog, as they bark alot, but aren't prone to attack anything and everything. Downside for most people is that they are bred for being outdoors guarding animals, and they are not happy on a city size lot...
I don't know much about the other larger breeds like rotweilers, mastiffs, etc but I suspect the original selection criteria of those breeds makes them a bit more of a risk for attacking people that don't need to be attacked. I know I don't want one anyways.
We spent quite a bit of time with the dogs and with our friends kids to make sure they understand that they have to put up with some abuse and aren't overly aggresive.
Enzo jumps the fence when he feels like it but I don't worry about him attacking the UPS guy when we aren't home.
Their temperment is probably very good for a home defense dog, as they bark alot, but aren't prone to attack anything and everything. Downside for most people is that they are bred for being outdoors guarding animals, and they are not happy on a city size lot...
I don't know much about the other larger breeds like rotweilers, mastiffs, etc but I suspect the original selection criteria of those breeds makes them a bit more of a risk for attacking people that don't need to be attacked. I know I don't want one anyways.
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
Never suggested a big mean dog...I suggested a gigantic, sweet natured, family pet, gentle with children, likes to play, that happens to have been bred for hunting and has a strong pack/protect instinct...
The point isn't for the dog to go kill the person, but for the person to realize that they don't want to antagonize that particular dog...
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
Never suggested a big mean dog...I suggested a gigantic, sweet natured, family pet, gentle with children, likes to play, that happens to have been bred for hunting and has a strong pack/protect instinct...
The point isn't for the dog to go kill the person, but for the person to realize that they don't want to antagonize that particular dog...
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
Refer back to my German Shepherd post, you are God, your kids are their pack, they are fantastic companions.
If Mr. crack head comes poking around at night they don't bark, they rip off his arm and try to kill him.
As a result criminals really, really, really don't like them.
You guys that actually have the big mean dogs.....do you have any problems when "nice" people visit your home (bites)?
We have a bulldog mix that is friendly as can be in the dog park, pet stores, with visiting grandkids, etc.. But, he is VERY protective and vicious in our home and front yard with strangers. He does listen to commands, IF we are there. We have signs up and are very responsible owners.
This scares me because of liability. Last week a disoriented old person walked through our front door, no knock, and our dog bit him. Everything worked our o.k., but I still worry. I know of people sued for their dog biting a friend in the dog's own home.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
Refer back to my German Shepherd post, you are God, your kids are their pack, they are fantastic companions.
If Mr. crack head comes poking around at night they don't bark, they rip off his arm and try to kill him.
As a result criminals really, really, really don't like them.
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Talk about your HE**HOUNDS, that thing looks absolutely EVIL!!!
Even a zombiefied meth/crackhead would have the fear of the lord (or devil as the case may be) put into them by THAT monster!!
Heck yeah! It`s a Presa Carario. AWESOME dog,huh!
Talk about your HE**HOUNDS, that thing looks absolutely EVIL!!!
Even a zombiefied meth/crackhead would have the fear of the lord (or devil as the case may be) put into them by THAT monster!!
Heck yeah! It`s a Presa Carario. AWESOME dog,huh!
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Refer back to my German Shepherd post, you are God, your kids are their pack, they are fantastic companions.
If Mr. crack head comes poking around at night they don't bark, they rip off his arm and try to kill him.
As a result criminals really, really, really don't like them.
That's the kind of dog we have, and thus my fears. What happens if you're out back in the garden, your kind neighbor comes to deliver some misdirected mail, steps into the house to set it on the table, and gets devoured by your dog? Or uncle Buck? Or the mother-n-law (maybe this one is an exception)?
Refer back to my German Shepherd post, you are God, your kids are their pack, they are fantastic companions.
If Mr. crack head comes poking around at night they don't bark, they rip off his arm and try to kill him.
As a result criminals really, really, really don't like them.
That's the kind of dog we have, and thus my fears. What happens if you're out back in the garden, your kind neighbor comes to deliver some misdirected mail, steps into the house to set it on the table, and gets devoured by your dog? Or uncle Buck? Or the mother-n-law (maybe this one is an exception)?
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
If you start with a herding breed the dogs usually come pre-programmed knowing how to tell the difference right out of the box. They need to be taught appropriate behaviour like any dog, but they can usually tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys pretty well.
How does one train a dog to distinguish a threatening person vs. others? Seems impossible.
If you start with a herding breed the dogs usually come pre-programmed knowing how to tell the difference right out of the box. They need to be taught appropriate behaviour like any dog, but they can usually tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys pretty well.
So due to everything coming up this week I will not have time to put up the floodlights till next weekend, but, will be cleaning out the sideyard this weekend. It is covered in Kudzu so yeah that's going to be a battle in itself, but takes away any potential hiding spots for them as thats what they were relying on before. Also I have been making it a point to go over to that side of the yard more often at night to "work, fix, etc." things. So that way my presence is known. Also been taking my dog over that way as well when we go out to let it be known she is there. She would bark and rear up at anyone on that side of the fence.
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