Supertech now available in 0w16

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted by rooflessVW
Or you could, you know, just buy the correct oil?


Retailers don't like to sell things at a lost unless it has been on the shelf for years, however they would like to give them away for almost free if no one wants it or use it.

0w16 would be a good way to make them usable, 0w20 too but you may need an extra bottle vs 0w16, making the final blend a bit more expensive.

 

[PandaBear]

Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I can't help but wonder is engines are really "designed" around a super thin oil like 0W16,or are manufacturers just pushing the envelope to see how many mpg's they can squeeze out? There was a member here years back named Frank (I think?) that used M1 15W50 in all his vehicles,including ones that spaced a W20 oil with excellent results (uoa's,etc).


This has been mentioned to death (at least 5 times by me):

0w16 and below oil are spec by engines with VARIABLE VOLUME OIL PUMP , so the engine increase / decrease oil flow as needed.

This is one of the reason why they use 0w16 instead of 0w15 so people are not going to get confused and put 15w40 in their car or the other way around.

 

[StevieC]

Chrysler does the same thing. They have Variable Oil pumps in their PentaStar engines rated for 20wt oil. It's weird to see the oil pressure all of a sudden jump on the gauge under the right conditions.

 

[Gokhan]

Originally Posted by Shannow
... to explain why I was not in favour of uber Viscosity indices which were your flavour of the month in the past.

They say, "Variety is the spice of life."

 

[Gokhan]

Originally Posted by Shannow
LOL, given that I introduced you to the chart, ...

Lol. No, you did not introduce me to the chart.

These are the files in my computer:

They are three different versions of the Exxon Mobil synthetic lubricant base stocks formulation guide, and I downloaded them in 2011, 2014, and 2018. Our discussion didn't take place until 2018, more than four years after I downloaded the version you posted.

In fact, I had posted the original version on our website and we got contacted by Exxon Mobil to take it down:

On 12/4/2013 5:33 PM, Lee, Caslin wrote:

Hello Gokhan

Many thanks for informing me about the removal of the outdated formulations guidebook from your website.

We welcome you to provide the below link to our new formulations guidebook. This will ensure that visitors to your website will have access to the latest version.

https://www.exxonmobilchemical.com/...hetic-basestocks-formulations-guide.aspx

Cheers.

Caslin Lee æŽè•™ä¼¶
Brand Advisor
Marketing Communications
ExxonMobil Chemical Asia Pacific

I wrote her back on the same day:

Thank you Caslin. I'll provide the link when needed. Note that it requires registration for people to be able to download it -- making it inconvenient to access.

Thanks,

Gokhan

After I wrote her, they removed the requirement for registration and the link for the formulation guide became public.

So, it turns out that I'm the one who introduced you and many others to the chart by having had Exxon Mobil make it public!

For what it's worth, these are the three different versions of the chart (2010, 2013, and 2017):

 

[Shannow]

Point Ceded...
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2309841/1

I downloaded all mine when you had to register....

 

[FCD]

Originally Posted by ekpolk
Originally Posted by FordCapriDriver
I will buy some when i can.... to use on my door hinges.

With 0W-16 i doubt the oil pressure gauge would even move off its resting position in either of my cars

Well, let's see, when cold, the 0w-16 will be much thicker than a 20w-50 will be when hot. Cold 0w-16, depending upon brand, formulation, etc. should be somewhere around 40 cSt. When hot, a 20w-50, again depending upon the particular product will be at around 20 cSt, give or take a bit. So, yes indeed, if your gauge shows pressure when you're engine is hot with 20w-50, it'll read pressure when cold, if you put a 0w-16 in it. Of course, I wouldn't count on a couple loose old engines from the 70s or 80s being able to handle a modern 0w-16 oil when they get hot, so be careful. . .

I know, it was a tounge and cheek comment hehe