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PQIA analysis it's the same oil and same additive pack? Good for 5k OCI?
SuperTech HM 5w30 vs Kirkland 5w30
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depends on the vehicle and drive may go beyond 5,000 miles
WM brand celery vs Costco brand celery. Both produced by Dole. Would it shock anyone to find out both are the exact same celery in different packaging?
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I’m thinking they use some EHC at that price point …
They sell ST 20k for just $20/jug - I’d sooner do that for 10k …
Super Tech High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30 is the old oil I use in all my vehicles.
My OCI in all vehicles is: 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first.
I have 4 vehicles:
Three 2006-2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L's with VCM enabled (which is very hard on the oil with extreme hot temps on the cylinder heads due to VCM and poorly designed PCV).
2012 Toyota Corolla LE.
The reason I use this oil is it's Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved, which sets stricter limits for sludge and varnish deposits.
It has generous amounts of phosphorous and zinc anti-wear additives, and calcium detergent additives.
I'm also trying to keep maintenance costs low, as they can really add up (more than you think) over a 10 year period.
I keep an accurate spreadsheet of all car repairs done on all the cars I've owned in the past 20 years,
with cost of each repair for parts/labor, and cost of gasoline. The numbers have convinced me that car ownership
is much more expensive then most people think of the long term if you factor in gasoline, repair cost, and maintenance cost.
My OCI in all vehicles is: 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first.
I have 4 vehicles:
Three 2006-2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L's with VCM enabled (which is very hard on the oil with extreme hot temps on the cylinder heads due to VCM and poorly designed PCV).
2012 Toyota Corolla LE.
The reason I use this oil is it's Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved, which sets stricter limits for sludge and varnish deposits.
It has generous amounts of phosphorous and zinc anti-wear additives, and calcium detergent additives.
I'm also trying to keep maintenance costs low, as they can really add up (more than you think) over a 10 year period.
I keep an accurate spreadsheet of all car repairs done on all the cars I've owned in the past 20 years,
with cost of each repair for parts/labor, and cost of gasoline. The numbers have convinced me that car ownership
is much more expensive then most people think of the long term if you factor in gasoline, repair cost, and maintenance cost.
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Them and AmazonBasics are all from Warren and essentially the same oil, for all intents and purposes.
A clue, IMO, is that they list the same Dexos license number on the various brands for the same weight oils.
Branding is important.
Elon Musk can sell a Costco hot dog for 13 bucks at the Hollywood GigaDiner.
When you buy Supertech or Kirkland you're getting the good stuff without a brand premium.
If you're a Costco member, it's easy to buy it twice a year when they have the sale pricing and have it shipped.
I certainly wouldn't join Costco just to buy oil though. Although we save many multiples of the membership fee just doing our cruise vacations through their travel dept.
Not that they were all that relevant to start with.
Debatable.
Google AI suggests that Mobil 1 spent $100M on advertising last year. Kirkland & Supertech oil? Not much.
Exactly. I don’t know many premium brands selling re-refined group 2 mixed with group 3 as their top tier synthetic choice. I can guarantee Warren, Wally, and Costco aren’t leaving a cent on the table. In fact the Supertech Euro costs more than Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 0W-40 because IMO they couldn’t meet the specs with those base oils.
That said many engines don’t require anything more. Important to know your engine and conditions.
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I don’t honestly care. I picked up Valvoline Restore and Protect and PUP for the same or even less with rebates.
The big name brands could spend $1B in advertising for all I care, I’m still getting the “premium brand” for the same or better than the store brands with very little effort.
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Two 5qt jugs of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W20 on sale at Walmart for $26.50 each. Likely finishing up with the last Valvoline Restore and Protect run in the Toyota around late summer/early fall time frame. Couldn’t pass up the $30 rebate and sale combo.
Gumout Complete Fuel System Cleaner
Two 5qt jugs of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W20 on sale at Walmart for $26.50 each. Likely finishing up with the last Valvoline Restore and Protect run in the Toyota around late summer/early fall time frame. Couldn’t pass up the $30 rebate and sale combo.
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