suitable engine oil for 2.0L turbo

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hi gang, long time lurker, first time poster. i have a 2007 Saab 93 2.0L turbo. i was wondering if you guys(and gals) could help me choose the correct engine oil.

a few details: 2.0L 16v i4 B207R, 65,000miles, engine tuned to 269hp/317 lb ft, i live in Pennsylvania which has all weather seasons. i tend not to drive very hard, but i do the occasional freeway blast deep into triple-digits. and avoid short trips whenever possible. i change my oil every 5-6k miles, so about twice a year.

i believe the factory fill was Elf oil, and the manual recommends Mobil 1 0w-40. i did not like the way Mobil 1 made my car run. it seemed to knock at idle, and took forever for the engine to reach its normal operating temp. when i would change the Mobil 1 at 5k the oil was black...i mean black....

for the last year i switched to RP 5w30, and relatively pleased. the knocking is gone. and the engine warms up quickly. the mpg increased, and the car runs smoother. after 5k miles the RP oil is still amber-brown in color. but alot of people tell me a 30 oil is too thin for a turbo application.

money isnt really an issue, i dont mind paying $60 for oil twice a year. also i never really like the oem Hengst filters, after 5k the media gets distorted and looks half crushed. are Pureolator filters good? after 5k the media looks normal.

so what would you recommend. i can provide more details if needed, hope i didnt leave anything out.
 
Mobil 1 0w40 would have nothing to do with the amount of time your engine takes to warm up. How many M1 changes did you make?
 
Originally Posted By: tig1
Mobil 1 0w40 would have nothing to do with the amount of time your engine takes to warm up. How many M1 changes did you make?


i ran M1 for about 3 years, so maybe 6-7 changes. tbh the engine warming faster was the first thing i had noticed when i switched to RP. i figured it was related.
 
If the engine warms up quicker with the RP, that is not a good thing concerning the oil!
What detrimental drag and heat retaining features does the RP have?

I'd use Mobil 1 0w40 in that car, an never think twice about it.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
If the engine warms up quicker with the RP, that is not a good thing concerning the oil!
What detrimental drag and heat retaining features does the RP have?

I'd use Mobil 1 0w40 in that car, an never think twice about it.


hmmmmm. so you think a 0weight is my best choice? not crazy about going back to M1. is Rotella a good oil?
 
I looked at buying one of these cars. They spec Mobil 1 0w40 for 20,000km OCI. Most independant Saab workshops dont bother with that and use something like a 5w30/40 and 10,000km or 6mth OCI.

I was planning to use Castrol Edge 0w40 or Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 and 10k / 1 year OCI.
 
I think the important thing you should look for is an HTHS > 3.5, which typically means an ACEA A3/B4 rated oil. I'm using G-Oil 5w30 in my Audi, which calls for an ACEA A3/B4 oil, because the VOA shows it has an HTHS of 3.5. You can usually get 5 quarts FAR, so that's a bonus.
 
update: just wanted to share that I chose GC 0w30. was easy to find at local AutoZone, and reasonably priced.

have driven about 1100 miles, and I really like it so far. engine feels very very smooth.plan to run GC one more time, and submit the oil for a used oil analysis. that should be exciting!

just wanted to say thanks for all the suggestions, and in the near future I post up the used oil analysis for you guys to explain to me(lol).
 
Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
I'm using G-Oil 5w30 in my Audi, which calls for an ACEA A3/B4 oil, because the VOA shows it has an HTHS of 3.5. You can usually get 5 quarts FAR, so that's a bonus.

Does G-Oil 5w30 actually have an ACEA A3/B4 rating?

Additionally I've never seen a VOA posted on BITOG or anywhere that included the HTHSV test on any oil let alone the G-Oil since it's a very expensive test. If you have we'd love to see it.
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: threeputtpar
I'm using G-Oil 5w30 in my Audi, which calls for an ACEA A3/B4 oil, because the VOA shows it has an HTHS of 3.5. You can usually get 5 quarts FAR, so that's a bonus.

Does G-Oil 5w30 actually have an ACEA A3/B4 rating?

Additionally I've never seen a VOA posted on BITOG or anywhere that included the HTHSV test on any oil let alone the G-Oil since it's a very expensive test. If you have we'd love to see it.

No, it does not have an official ACEA rating but I am inferring that it meets the HTHSV of > 3.5 by the fact that it is a 5W30 that does not meet resource or energy conserving standards. That is not a 100% accurate way of determining HTHSv, but it almost always coorelates.
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
The HTHSV was inferred based on a member who had an OP gauge in his F-150, if I remember correctly.

Yes and I took part in that thread but it was quite awhile ago now. The latest version of the G-Oil 5w30 has a HTHSV of 3.2cP that was reported recently in the following thread:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...997#Post2661997

A HTHSV of 3.2cP is high enough to preclude the oil from getting the resource or energy conserving label.
 
I should also add that I suspect G-Oil being the small formulator that they are has a fair amount of product variability from batch to batch.
Even a company like RLI with it's much larger oil grade selection doesn't like to publish HTHSV spec's for that very reason.
 
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