Suggestion/Advice - 2016 Subaru Outback

[tmx]

Good Evening,
I've always had older vehicles where I just purchased whatever was on sale and never really worried about it. Several months ago, I purchased a new 2016 Subaru Outback off the lot, I let them do the first oil change but just don't care to pay someone else to do my oil changes. Wasn't sure if there was any reason to use the OEM Filter or Subaru Oil (i don't live very close to a dealership). But anyways, here are the details from the sticky..

1. What kind of vehicle you have . -- 2016 Subaru Outback
2. What your owner's manual says -- GF-5
3. Where you live -- Nashville, TN
4. How you drive (easy? hard? fast? slow?) -- not easy but not hard? Faster then slower..
5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?) -- 20 miles round trip, mix of local and interstate
6. Whether your car has any known problems -- none

From the reading i've done, I was looking to go with the WIX 57055 because of the 27psi -- is there anything better? And Pennzoil Platinum 0w20 -- any other suggestion?

Anything specific i should know with subaru's?

Thanks in advance for any advice, much appreciated.

 

[Todari09]

I just bought a 2017 Outback which is same as yours.
I'm planning to use Denso 150-2006 instead of Wix 57055. Denso has lots more filtering media with better construction. Yes it doesn't list bypass valve relief pressure but I don't mind that all. By the way, OEM bypass pressure is 23 PSI.
I will stick with 0W-20 until warranty runs out and switch to either 0W-30 or 5W-30 since I live in Northwest with very mild weather.

 

[GravelRoad]

Oil
I have a 2016 Subaru Outback Premium 2.5i w/ 16k. Been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-30 since new (4 oil changes).

Mobil 1 website says a 0w-30 can also be used. The wording in the owners manual makes it seem that only 0w-20 sythetic can be used. It also says:

"NOTE
Engine oil viscosity (thickness) affects
fuel economy. Oils of lower viscosity
provide better fuel economy. However,
in hot weather, oil of higher viscosity is
required to properly lubricate the engine."

Since I drive some gravel and mountain roads, I choose a 'light' 30 grade oil. Oil temp has gotten as high as 237F
Gives me that warm fuzzy feel.

Just got back a UOA form Blackstone Labs. they said "Your FB25 engine is liking this oil". I'll try to post the UOA soon.
Would a 0w-20 protect well, yes.

Oil Filter
I bought a case of 12 oem oil filters, 15208AA15A, for $68 shipped.
Have cut open 4 used and 2 new and seen no issues. I do not know the micron filtration, but out of a dozen aftermarket Subaru filters, it has the most media.
You can see the comparisons on Subaru Forester org:

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f113/subaru-oil-filter-comparison-99130/

 

[bluesubie]

I would go with a Wix or Napa filter or order the OEM filter on line. PP 0W20 is a good choice IMO!

 

[cmhj]

out for another beer run

 

[GenaFishbeck]

Congrats on the new ride tmx!

Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 would be an excellent choice for your Subaru Outback and will keep the engine clean and save you a bit on fuel economy. If you're still on the fence, check out our technical data sheet for Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 for complete details.

Feel free to PM us with any specific questions & hope this info helps!
-The Pennzoil Team

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: GenaFishbeck
Congrats on the new ride tmx!

Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 would be an excellent choice for your Subaru Outback and will keep the engine clean and save you a bit on fuel economy. If you're still on the fence, check out our technical data sheet for Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 for complete details.

Feel free to PM us with any specific questions & hope this info helps!
-The Pennzoil Team


Why was the NOACK removed from the TDS?

 

[Danh]

Originally Posted By: GravelRoad

Oil
I have a 2016 Subaru Outback Premium 2.5i w/ 16k. Been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-30 since new (4 oil changes).

Mobil 1 website says a 0w-30 can also be used. The wording in the owners manual makes it seem that only 0w-20 sythetic can be used. It also says:

"NOTE
Engine oil viscosity (thickness) affects
fuel economy. Oils of lower viscosity
provide better fuel economy. However,
in hot weather, oil of higher viscosity is
required to properly lubricate the engine."

Since I drive some gravel and mountain roads, I choose a 'light' 30 grade oil. Oil temp has gotten as high as 237F
Gives me that warm fuzzy feel.

Just got back a UOA form Blackstone Labs. they said "Your FB25 engine is liking this oil". I'll try to post the UOA soon.
Would a 0w-20 protect well, yes.

Oil Filter
I bought a case of 12 oem oil filters, 15208AA15A, for $68 shipped.
Have cut open 4 used and 2 new and seen no issues. I do not know the micron filtration, but out of a dozen aftermarket Subaru filters, it has the most media.
You can see the comparisons on Subaru Forester org:

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f113/subaru-oil-filter-comparison-99130/


Fwiw, Mobil's website says my 2015 Honda can use 0w-20 or 0w-30, too. And my manual also says only 0w-20.

 

[GravelRoad]

Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: GravelRoad

Oil
I have a 2016 Subaru Outback Premium 2.5i w/ 16k. Been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-30 since new (4 oil changes).

Mobil 1 website says a 0w-30 can also be used. The wording in the owners manual makes it seem that only 0w-20 sythetic can be used. It also says:

"NOTE
Engine oil viscosity (thickness) affects
fuel economy. Oils of lower viscosity
provide better fuel economy. However,
in hot weather, oil of higher viscosity is
required to properly lubricate the engine."

Since I drive some gravel and mountain roads, I choose a 'light' 30 grade oil. Oil temp has gotten as high as 237F
Gives me that warm fuzzy feel.

Just got back a UOA form Blackstone Labs. they said "Your FB25 engine is liking this oil". I'll try to post the UOA soon.
Would a 0w-20 protect well, yes.

Oil Filter
I bought a case of 12 oem oil filters, 15208AA15A, for $68 shipped.
Have cut open 4 used and 2 new and seen no issues. I do not know the micron filtration, but out of a dozen aftermarket Subaru filters, it has the most media.
You can see the comparisons on Subaru Forester org:

http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f113/subaru-oil-filter-comparison-99130/


Fwiw, Mobil's website says my 2015 Honda can use 0w-20 or 0w-30, too. And my manual also says only 0w-20.


Here's how mine reads"

"0W-20 synthetic oil is the required oil
for optimum engine performance and
protection. Conventional oil may be
used if synthetic oil is unavailable.
If 0W-20 synthetic oil is not available,
5W-30 or 5W-40 conventional oil may
be used if you need to add oil.
However, you should change to 0W-20
synthetic oil at the next oil change."

 

[GenaFishbeck]

Hi volk06 - our NOACK numbers are considered proprietary information and therefore, we cannot discuss them with the public. Thanks for understanding! - The Pennzoil Team

 

[tmx]

Thank you for the quick and helpful responses, I ended up going with what i listed above since i was in need of an oil change. But thanks for that tip of buying a dozen oem, think i might just have to do that.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: GenaFishbeck
Hi volk06 - our NOACK numbers are considered proprietary information and therefore, we cannot discuss them with the public.

As per the other Subaru thread, Gena, why? Some products have listed them before; look here for an obvious example. Your competition can run a Noack test on your products without consuming significant manpower, time, or financial resources. And, providing Noack certainly doesn't aid in the unlicensed duplication of your products or reveal formulation secrets to the competition.

I would suggest the Shell products are often class leaders in this category, so why not publicize that?