I just use a sharpy and change mine back to 32. Easy fix.Oh, and are you spying on me? I’ve had to change from 32 to my current 36 w pants over the last decade and it makes me sad. Thanks for triggering me!
I just use a sharpy and change mine back to 32. Easy fix.Oh, and are you spying on me? I’ve had to change from 32 to my current 36 w pants over the last decade and it makes me sad. Thanks for triggering me!
Funny, that's not true of any EV owners I know of. We generally have more than one vehicle for different uses and reasons. I do. In fact, I don't think I know EV owner with just one vehicle.
I just use a sharpy and change mine back to 32. Easy fix.
Get a quote from NY, which BTW Tesla doesn't offer insurance for.I pay about $1200 every 6 months for the Tesla, RX450, GS350, Tundra and TSX. Costco Connect.
2018 Model 3 is $255 for 6 months
2006 TSX $249
2013 GS350 $397
2021 RX450h $190
2001 Tundra, not full coverage $91
There is a lot of misinformation about EVs, especially Teslas, out there. Sensationalism sells.This has been my experience as well. I haven’t met a single holier than thou EV owner. It seems as if the negative emotional, irrational arguments come mostly from anti-EV people, whereas actual EV owners typically remain mostly to themselves. Furthermore, the opponents of EV don’t seem to have very convincing arguments. I don’t personally own an EV, but I will.
There is a lot of misinformation about EVs, especially Teslas, out there. Sensationalism sells.
People ask me about our car; I tell them my experience. I also tell them they need to know how they are gonna charge and the cost to upgrade their home, if necessary. "Not sure" is a terrible plan. There is a statistic out there that says something like 25% of EV owners go back to ICE; almost all do so because of charging issues.
Well, I don't live in NY. You asked what it cost to insure my car. I told you.Get a quote from NY, which BTW Tesla doesn't offer insurance for.
Stubborness and closed minds can be an issue. Don't ask me how I know.I‘d argue that most mistakes in life are based on an inadequate level of knowledge and/or insufficient research. Also wants vs needs. Choosing an EV is no different.
I presume I will own an EV some day. It currently makes no sense for me however, gas prices in South Carolina are low, electricity is lower than some places but not cheap, and the ROI on a EV at this point would be like half a million miles and until I am dead. As such no manufacturer even allocates EV's to the state except Tesla.This has been my experience as well. I haven’t met a single holier than thou EV owner. It seems as if the negative emotional, irrational arguments come mostly from anti-EV people, whereas actual EV owners typically remain mostly to themselves. Furthermore, the opponents of EV don’t seem to have very convincing arguments. I don’t personally own an EV, but I will.
You have an ICE vehicle as well?Funny, that's not true of any EV owners I know of. We generally have more than one vehicle for different uses and reasons. I do. In fact, I don't think I know EV owner with just one vehicle.
No I replied to Brian 123 here:Well, I don't live in NY. You asked what it cost to insure my car. I told you.
I do hope to visit upperstate NY soon to pay my respects at my Grandmother's grave.
Hey @JeffKeryk since you’ve had a Tesla for awhile, do you get a 1:1 charge ratio or are there conversion losses? Meaning, if your house meter shows a usage of 50kW, does your Tesla show a 50kW gain?Uhhh, well let’s do some math.
Around here it’s 14.4 c/kWh for electricity. That’s after you use 1350 kWh (before is under 10c) but let’s roll with that.
So a vehicle with a 100 kWh battery would cost $14.40 to charge. Could drive around 620 km or so.
Meanwhile 87 is $1.80 per litre. So a compact car with a 60L tank would cost about $108 to fill… And at 8.5L/100 km that tank would get you about 700 km.
So the EV is costing 2.3 cents per km. The compact car about 15.4 c/km.
So even if you have to spend $1500 on a charger it would pay for itself in 11,500 km of driving which for someone like my wife is about 4.5 - 5 months. Then after that you’re spending pennies per km.
It is getting hard to justify not driving an EV if you’re not going outside the typical range.
Ya I don't know, but any ministry of propaganda would be proud of and has emulated them.Unlike the rest of the broadcast media playing the Tv watchers for the fools they are.
Wait until they shut off your solar panels because they dont need your energy in the grid.That is actually a big concern of mine: net metering. If the winds change and they take that away, what’s the point of having a large array that exceeds you use if they‘re not willing to pay you for that exces?
I live in New England, so sunny days also complicate the ROI equation. The ROI is certainly short enough to make it worth it, but that date isn’t short for me. With that said, I need to keep doing the numbers, because solar may be going down in price while electric rates will do nothing but go up. The supply chain issues also negate the lowering cost of photovoltaics in general, so the goal posts are always moving.
Exactly why I won’t ever own a grid-tie system. If I pull the trigger, it’s going to be a completely separate system (separate panel for solar & grid power), and I may or may not just sever the ties with AEP altogether and go off-grid. Even if I oversized my array by 20% for any future-added loads, I can get by with no more than 7.2kW array. Pair that with a 10kW propane backup gen for cloudy weeks and ample battery storage, and I can tell the grid they’re #1Wait until they shut off your solar panels because they dont need your energy in the grid.
You won't hear much talk about that, I asked in another thread and didn't get an answer. Lets just say it is quite a bit more than a comparable ICE vehicle. T-bone one, nothing crazy maybe 10-15 mph and mess up the battery. There's a very good chance they'll total it. T-Bone and don't mess up the battery, just wreck both doors, it might be another total. They're not cheap or easy to fix, and the insurance company knows it. Tesla offers their own insurance because they know the cost is high, IIRC states like NY and NJ Tesla doesn't offer it.
I cannot speak to that, but my understanding is there are always transmission losses from source to destination. That's the nature of electricity.Hey @JeffKeryk since you’ve had a Tesla for awhile, do you get a 1:1 charge ratio or are there conversion losses? Meaning, if your house meter shows a usage of 50kW, does your Tesla show a 50kW gain?
Charging batteries is not like turning on an electric motor, plus there are charge controllers and other things that would be in the charge path sucking away precious electrons during the charge, correct? There have to be some losses there, likely ~10%? That would mean the supposed 50kW gain in the vehicle above would actually cost you 55kW from the electric co. Just trying to understand long-term charge observations and the correlation between the car & the wall kW…
That's my point, and insurance costs have to be factored into the cost of owning and operating a vehicle, and are often conveniently overlooked. Here the insurance on a Tesla is quite a bit higher than a comparable ICE, making it a hard no for many people. Even Elon isn't insuring them here yet.I mention it every chance I get, usually gets deleted though.
I got rid of a car because the fees and insurance were more than it’s blue book
And this isn’t just plug ins, hybrids have the same issue if you live in the wrong area
Transmission losses I know about; I was hoping you may have some way to correlate from plug to car what the difference in actual power transfer there was. Wanted to point out that just because EV says it holds 100kW does not equate to the same amount showing up on the power company bill. Not bashing EVs on this; as you acknowledge there are always transfer losses, but it appears some people forget this fact. And I get that having a built-in array that’s oversized makes any conversion losses from solar to battery power kind of a moot point. ThanksI cannot speak to that, but my understanding is there are always transmission losses from source to destination. That's the nature of electricity.
You probably know more about that than I.
All I can tell you is, when I decided to do the solar project, I specifically asked for more capacity then was recommended. I figured that one day I might buy an EV and that I would probably use more electricity as time progressed. I was not gonna invest that much money and still have to pay PG&E. Remember, CA has some of the highest rates in the nation. So far I have not had an annual true up. I love my solar!