STP oil filter, low quality?

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The person who did this video should have done a little research first beforehand. I'm sure he meant this test (display) to be serious but I found it rather comical myself.

Metal filter endcaps filter better because? More (paper) media is always better because? In the case of the STP filter, a metal centertube allows for better filtration because?

Just because he says the Fram and STP filters have paper end caps doesn't make it true.
 
He's more or less correct ...but not necessarily for the right reasons. Fram isn't cheap due to it's cardboard (our nomenclature) non-metal endcaps ..it's just cheap and they use non-metal endcaps. Other Fram offerings use metal endcaps ..which kinda infers that they don't think too much about their lower end filter design if you're willing to ante up. The Ecore (STP) uses a plastic cage to reduce metal in filter ..a plus for the trade that may be required to "de-can" the filter before disposal. The endcap construction did not originate out of cheapness ..but with that goal in mind (100% easy separated metal). Fram didn't have this "feature" in mind. They still have a metal center tube. Before the Ecore, and currently on other low end offerings in other than Ecore can size filters, a metal end cap was used before and is used now. The end cap is a composite fabric that has some odd process to bond it to the media (maybe sonic welding or heating - I can't recall). Ecores tend to be lower end offerings in terms of filtration and costs ..but I imagine if someone wanted better media and silicon combo valves, they would be more than happy to produce a $4-$5 retail Ecore. I find the design rather novel. Think of the high volume quick lube that has a $2500 commercial grade filter can cutter and disposes of 4 55 gallon drums full of crushed filter cans a month. All the recyclable material is in the end cap and the can. The internals are all non-metal. As environmental regs/mandates get even more complicated, an Ecore may be the default choice for sensible avoided costs. The OEMs are already going back to cartridge type, non-metal, filters.

Various filters use non-metal end caps. Hamp was one that used an Ecore like end cap ..and some Euro types used something that appeared like some molded/injected polymer that the media was embedded in ...much like various spa/hot tub filters.

On the Motor Craft filters, YMMV. That is, although it appears to conform to the Premium Plus construction motif, it is 100% assured to meet Ford spec's for whatever engine it's designated for. A FL400S, for example, will have a silicon ADBV ..and, one would assume, whatever level of performance media that's called for in that application. It will have a open end bypass valve (although I don't consider this an essential feature - FORD does).
 
These endcaps are made of polyester. They are bonded to the media using a thermal bonding process. Having filters with these endcaps is actually an advantage due to the fact that they require less room than metal endcaps, so more media can be fit into canister than before. Also, in tests done by Champion Labs, the nylon center core used in ecore filters has a higher collapse strength than the previously used metal cores. The style of the filters changed and sometimes change scares poeple, but i assure you that these filters are still as high in quality as other conventional brands one would find in stores.
 
I picked up a few today during the Autozone special with 10 qts of Mobil Clean 5000. Just by looking at it, it looks just like a Supertech. IIRC, the Supertech has metal ends on it. Am I correct? Is the Supertech itself a unique filter, or does it have another Champ equilivent? One thing that was nice to see on the STP was "Product of USA"
 
The STP line of fliters covers a lot more applications than the Super Tech line does. As to filter media I'd bet they use a better grade in the STP's.

I also picked up on a couple of the AutoZone oil change specials today, although I went with Castrol GTX. With a choice of up to 5 oil filters per application I went with the most expensive - the Bosch Premium.
 
Some of the Super Tech are Ecore, some are not. Same goes for the STP line. None of the Mobil 1 filter's are Ecore.
 
The Ecore filters are not made below a certain can size (diameter). They only have so many lines for Ecore filters. Those not Ecores will have the metal endcaps and the "blue button" bypass valve.
 
STP and Supertech have very similar medias, efficiency wise. Anything smaller than 3" in diameter cannot be ecore.
 
Though his conclusions may be dead on, I'm with Shup. If I'm making a video of anything that the vast majority of the audience will be dudes, I'm turning off "Light FM".
 
i'm currently running an AutoZone Valucraft Ecore filter on my car, and I have very little, if any, start-up noise in the morning after sitting outside, overnight, in 20-something degree temps; this is with 10w30 oil. I had Bosch and Fram on there previously, and always had some start-up noise regardless of outside temps.... whatever that's worth...
 
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Originally Posted By: HawkeyeScott
Though his conclusions may be dead on, I'm with Shup. If I'm making a video of anything that the vast majority of the audience will be dudes, I'm turning off "Light FM".



It goes with his other video distractions a bit better. He's just out of his genre with oil filters
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Originally Posted By: HawkeyeScott
Though his conclusions may be dead on


Except that they arent.
 
That fleetguard looks like a great filter, looks like the same media as the EAO?, where can a guy order fleetguard filters at a good price????
 
Originally Posted By: N Heat
I picked up a few today during the Autozone special with 10 qts of Mobil Clean 5000. Just by looking at it, it looks just like a Supertech. IIRC, the Supertech has metal ends on it. Am I correct? Is the Supertech itself a unique filter, or does it have another Champ equilivent? One thing that was nice to see on the STP was "Product of USA"


I picked up 10 qts of that oil w/ the filters at @ VatoZone too. I don't mind the STP filters on my beater/daily drivers. I only use OEM on my nice cars though.
 
This is borderline
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and outdated, but I posted this 3-4 years ago:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...true#Post326982

(Here's the photos in case yahoo is borked):

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BTW, I did install the STP filter and ran it for 5k miles. No UOA or any other data, other than the filter looked OK when I replaced it.

I'm also continuing to run a Fram in this application (when I can find them). I scored a case of six of them off ebay a few months ago.
 
Is this the part where we're supposed to guess what names belong to what filter in that pic - should we decide not to click-on your link?
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