Stellantis Recalling 113K Jeeps.

[Propflux01]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars...ngler-grand-cherokee-sand-engine/87273284007/

"Nearly 113,000 Jeeps in the United States are being recalled after reports of debris being found in some of the vehicle's engines, the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration reported.

The news comes after Michigan-based Stellantis issued a separate Jeep recall earlier this month following reports the high voltage battery in some other SUVs may fail and spark a fire.

The new alert is for 112,859 Wrangler and Grand Cherokee plug-in hybrids at risk of engine failure due to sand contamination in the engine, according to the NHTSA report.

An internal investigation determined those SUVs "may have been built with 2.0L engines that could be contaminated with sand from the casting process," Stellantis spokesperson Frank Matyok released in statement"

This time, it's sand casting, not metal debris.

 

[HemiBenny]

As sad as it is anymore, you can’t help but laugh at the situation.

It seems that all of these manufacturers are becoming less competent by the year! Shouldn’t they be getting better at this?

 

[SC Maintenance]

Do they sand cast engines anymore? I thought it was all lost foam at this point?

So we don't believe all the other OEM's problems were machining debris but we now believe this is sand casting?

 

[HemiBenny]

Do they sand cast engines anymore? I thought it was all lost foam at this point?

So we don't believe all the other OEM's problems were machining debris but we now believe this is sand casting?

I don’t believe any of their excuses anymore. They’re all just trying to cover up their incompetence.

 

[fantastic]

Good that it's been recalled if it's a problem. I want to think that it's due to collectively what buyers expect and have fought for over decades that finally have come to at least reluctant recalls. Buying older equipment has its advantages from my angle.

 

[Propflux01]

I think it just boils down to cost. Manufacturers are cutting corners to cut costs. And sometimes they don’t get it right.

 

[Egg_Head]

"A remedy is currently under development, according to the agency, and affected Jeep owners will be notified by the company when service can be scheduled."

Say what? If there was just some sand in the engine, wouldn't the oil filter and/or a couple of oil changes take care of it? You cannot believe a GD thing these car manufacturers first tell you about a recall. We are talking about Jeeps/Grand Cherokees that were built from 06/07/23 to 03/04/25. How are all you Jeep owners feeling about your purchase?

 

[SC Maintenance]

"A remedy is currently under development, according to the agency, and affected Jeep owners will be notified by the company when service can be scheduled."

Say what? If there was just some sand in the engine, wouldn't the oil filter and/or a couple of oil changes take care of it? You cannot believe a GD thing these car manufacturers first tell you about a recall. We are talking about Jeeps/Grand Cherokees that were built from 06/07/23 to 03/04/25. How are all you Jeep owners feeling about your purchase?

If it is sand debris it could be in the coolant passages.

But yes I wonder what it really is also.

 

[OVERKILL]

"A remedy is currently under development, according to the agency, and affected Jeep owners will be notified by the company when service can be scheduled."

Say what? If there was just some sand in the engine, wouldn't the oil filter and/or a couple of oil changes take care of it? You cannot believe a GD thing these car manufacturers first tell you about a recall. We are talking about Jeeps/Grand Cherokees that were built from 06/07/23 to 03/04/25. How are all you Jeep owners feeling about your purchase?

Well, my parents bought one with the 5.7L, so just fine, lol.

 

[D60]

Actually my favorite quote:

"Customers may hear a knocking noise coming from the engine or see a malfunction indicator lamp 'prior to catastrophic failure,' the NHTSA wrote in its report."

 

[The Critic]

But yes I wonder what it really is also.

They'll have to ask Nemak.

 

[andrew_j]

Jeep has had some tough years under Stellanis “leadership” and “direction” , hopefully it sorts soon.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Why does this , specifically, keep happening? Even Toyota had to recall for this ...

 

[JohnnyG]

If it is sand debris it could be in the coolant passages.

But yes I wonder what it really is also.

The article I read last week said it could be from the turbo castings also. I didn't read the linked article.

 

[zzyzzx]

Why does this , specifically, keep happening? Even Toyota had to recall for this ...

MBA's cutting costs with total disregard to quality.

 

[KrisZ]

The artisans in flip flops must be making castings for everyone

 

[altaylar]

Do they sand cast engines anymore? I thought it was all lost foam at this point?

So we don't believe all the other OEM's problems were machining debris but we now believe this is sand casting?

It is still quite common, very cost effective and fast as tooling is much easier and faster, and this is an industry of low margins. Depending on the firm, that flexibility might be even more important. The surface finish is not the best though and post processing needs to be intensive, especially if it is made for efficiency based taxation market. I don`t think there is much excuse to these kind of errors though, other than executives` comepsation being based on year end stock price or profit, and it might work well for them to cut corners and pump the production, and deal with the problem after pocketing a nice bonus or leave the problem to the next executive in line.

 

[Jarpin]

.... There's only one...