If you had a 65, or even 75 MPH speed limiter-you better not get on the interstate, esp. in urban areas… You WILL get run down! Unless your vehicle is a semi, or large heavily loaded truck that will stop the lunatics from hitting it!
Speed limiters on autos
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Did you read what OP wrote?
65 MPH or 70 MPH or even 75 MPH is not a high speed chase when that is the current speed limit on many highways today. At those speeds the police would be following you, not chasing you. And add 10 mph to those numbers before most cops will bother to give you a ticket. High speed chase refers to 120 or 150 mph, or at the very least, triple digit speeds.
I agree with you, but just curious. What are these consequences?
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Cameras, GPS tracking, drones. Track the criminal, apprehend where it's safe to do so. No need for a high speed chase. We have the technology.
Profesionally or as a hobby?
Have you seen the traffic problems that speed limited semi trucks cause?
Radios are new tech?
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nothing more annoying than two volvo’s are duking it out on a 2 lane highway at 65 MPH while there are a mile of cars waiting to go by.
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I saw this video explaining these gps trackers that can shoot out of the front of a patrol car and stick to the offending car so they can track it from a distance. It seemed like a good idea to me until i saw how they launched out and stuck to the offending vehicle. It did not look like it stuck very well to me. Turns out they had issues sticking to dirty vehicles or staying on during crazy driving. The real mind boggler for me was the fact that they cost $20,000 per dart. Leave it to anything government to somehow get the cost of a seemingly cheap consumable into the unfathomable realm monetarily.
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Anytime a contractor is involved, that's what happens. And usually, the contractor is a huge corporation that bribed its way into it.
Most vehicles have built-in GPS. Anything built at least in the last 15 years.
Criminals who engage in a police chase are of the extremely stupid variety. You could throw the book at them and it won't change anything. Now, put in their head that you can get them anytime, anywhere, and that might dether them.
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I pay my tax dollars too and if I wanna cruise down the empty turnpike (that I'm taxed and tolled heavily for) that's my right
No reason based on what? Your guess?
I can turn off GPS in my car
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The vehicles are many times stolen, fake and/or stolen license plate. Very hard to convict, or even have a district/ county attorney approve charges when the criminal is not caught in the act of fleeing and eluding
Professionally, I have an advanced education from Northwestern University, fleeing and eluding- high speed chases was part of the curriculum. Majority of the class concurred with your position, my assessment came to a different conclusion.
Yes, absolutely- many times. Most common was on interstates with grade. Can cause numerous risks. For large trucking firms, they have speed limiters primarily to reduce exposure to lawsuits.
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Why don't you educate me.
Given speed limits are the purview of States, not federal government, who gets to decide what this theoretical limit should be?
Sorry Dave, I can't do that.
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Some cities do, but most do not have this kind of tech.
Your presumption is grossly flawed.
dnewton3
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That's not completely accurate. It's sort of true, and sort of not ...
Federal dollars are handed out to the states for many projects. Federal roads must be built to federal standards, and comply with speed limits for certain criteria. For example, when an interstate passes through a city of population "X", the limit drops. It's a whole convoluted thing that has many inputs and multipliers. But, yes, there are federal limits on federal roads that States must abide by to get their federal tax dollars handed back to them. Civil roadway and traffic engineering is a whole industry unto itself. Different interest groups pull in both directions. Etc, etc, etc ...
When you read this:
https://highways.dot.gov/safety/speed-management/speed-limit-basics
It seems as though it's up to the States. But what it doesn't say outwardly that if those States don't follow the Federal imposed guidelines, they don't get their federal project and maintenance dollars.
Sometimes it's fun to play around with well-meaning, but often flawed ways of reading things: (this quote below is taken from the website above)
"SPEED SAFETY FACTS
- Drivers who exceed the posted speed limit or drive too fast for conditions are involved in nearly one-third of all fatal crashes."
Go above the speed limit; 1/3rd of fatalities happen
What conditions are associated with the other 2/3rds of fatalities???
If one-third of all fatal crashes happen when speeding (too fast for conditions or above the posted limit), then that means two-thirds of the fatalities happen when people are driving at a safe speed, or below the speed limit.
So is it wrong to deduce that it's actually safer to speed over the limit, because you're less likely to die?????
This is just a poorly written statement on the federal website. But it's funny to ask the "what if" about the opposite conditions.
Technically, the speed limit is up to the State, but they are always going to set it with the fed "suggestions" (guidelines) in mind.
So the feds get their way, though it's a back-door way of doing it.
When the I-69 project was coming through IN, I stopped into the section 6 office one day and asked a lot of questions. This info above was what I was told.
In a rural area of a state, the limits are fairly high. In a congested area of that same state, the limits are lower. Fairly logical.
State roads are the purview of the state solely. As country roads are for the counties. Etc.
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A state could say we have no speed limits anywhere in our state, and the only thing the federal government could do is withhold road funds (which in itself is another contortion of state's rights - but that's a different discussion).
So in this example, the FG could say if you don't implement vehicle max speed X, we will withhold funding - ie use tax dollars to usurp authority. On that part your correct.
However in the purest form of constitutional law, this decision is "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"
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My mom has her tonsils swell up as a little girl and her uncle got her to the hospital in Kansas City by driving her there like a bat outta hell. Within the last ten years my mom drove my to the ER for irregular heartbeat and was doing well over 15-20mph over to get me there.
A few years ago they had a huge tornado
in the Lawrence/Eudora area and I was "qualifying" going past KC Speedway trying to stay ahead of that which I believe was a Class 4. I didn't know how long it would last but it pushed me from Tonganoxie all the way to Arrowhead Stadium 
before I felt safe. We don't need anymore suggestions, complications, restrictions,excuses...we simply need people to be aware of others and to drive defensive and keep calm as much as possible. We must all be masters of our own destiny
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