Spark Plug Extended Change

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Originally posted by S2000driver:
If I was considering a car where the engine had to be lifted to change the spark plugs, I would laugh/shake my head and move on to something else.

Which car are you refering to? I dont recall anyone saying that...
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Well, the big block Shelby Mustangs (GT-500's) fit this category.
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And my '81 SB Vette **** near does. What a PITA
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you have to take off the alternator, starter and ypipe just to change plugs?!!?

jeez man they sure dont build engines user friendly anymore. i would hate to see how much work it would be to replace an oil pan, prolly have to pull the engine to do that eh? (im just joking:))

on my step dads ford i had to take off the throttle body, and fuel rails to get at the plugs (wireless coil thing on top each plug)

what a pita. i love the 4cyl imports, man its easy. even with the ciol thingy on top, a couple screws and thats off, replace the plugs and put the coil things back on, sooooo eassy.
 
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Originally posted by dkcase:
With my 74 F250, with the 300 CID Six (before it bacame a 4.9 liter engine), I used to climb into the engine compartment and stand alongside the engine with my feet on the ground to change the plugs and the points/condenser/rotor.

On a '96 Caravan, I never changed the plugs, over 96,000 miles, 6 years. Couldn't even TOUCH the plugs on the rear side. Never saw them. Terrible. 3.0 V6. Got rid of it before I had to try to remove them, was sure they'd be seized.


YEP...My Jeep TJ with the straight 6 is the same as the "olden days"...put down a clean towel...and work off the flat fender...I actually look foward to doing my plug changes on that motor
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...Use Champion Gold Truck plugs and do them every two years...right before my E test
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Originally posted by cryptokid:
you have to take off the alternator, starter and ypipe just to change plugs?!!?

jeez man they sure dont build engines user friendly anymore. i would hate to see how much work it would be to replace an oil pan, prolly have to pull the engine to do that eh? (im just joking:))

on my step dads ford i had to take off the throttle body, and fuel rails to get at the plugs (wireless coil thing on top each plug)

what a pita. i love the 4cyl imports, man its easy. even with the ciol thingy on top, a couple screws and thats off, replace the plugs and put the coil things back on, sooooo eassy.


Well somepeople say they can do all eight without removing anything. I say they must also have the forearms of an 8yr old girl
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Honestly I think most people make it out to be more of a problem that it really is. Besides I'll gladly put up with a 2hr plug change once a year (at the most) for the power you get in return
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The oil pan isnt bad actually, you just loosen the motor mounts, jack the motor up a but and it'll slide out the back.
 
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Originally posted by Soma07:

Well somepeople say they can do all eight without removing anything. I say they must also have the forearms of an 8yr old girl
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The guy who changed my plugs for me can do his own LT1's plugs in 45min! All from the top too. Although he does have headers, so that helps access big time. He's got super skinny arms, he's the perfect mechanic, which is why I always phone him when something goes wrong on my LT1.
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If it wasn't so cold out I would've asked him to change my water pump for me a few weeks ago. I'm sure I would've saved hundreds by using him (the GM dealer charged me $900!!)
 
Ah, I love my new Corolla, changing ANYTHING is a walk in the park, especially plugs/wires. My Grand Am is a royal pain to change the rear plugs (transverse V6). I found with that car that the platnium tips on the stock plugs were all gone at 30,000 miles, so I upgraded to Autolite double platniums.
 
The only problem with import 4-cylinders is the location of the oil filter and the timing belts. The rest is cake.

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cylinders is the location of the oil filter and the timing belts. The rest is cake

remote mounted filter solves that:)

i agree on the timing belt thing though. but this is hard to do on any engine, import or domestic that uses a timing belt or chain instead of gears.
 
My BMW straight six takes dual side-electrode non-regappable Bosch or NGK copper plugs. They last about 25,000 miles. Fortunately, they are easy to replace, no wires, one ignition coil bolted down on top of each plug. The whole job takes less than one hour.

The 100,000 mile plugs in new BMW's are special quad-electrode platinum disc NGK. They cost about $13US each.
 
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