Solid-state battery from US cell maker hits new milestone

[buster]

"Based in Massachusetts, Factorial Energy has been working on its lithium-metal quasi-solid-state technology for over a decade, attracting backing and collaboration from major automakers like Stellantis, Mercedes-Benz and Hyundai. It's aiming for a long-range, energy-dense battery that costs the equivalent of lithium-ion units and rolls off the same production lines. This month, it sent out its first round of B-samples to Mercedes-Benz for further testing and development."

https://newatlas.com/automotive/factorial-solid-state-battery-b-sample/

 

[JHZR2]

Lithium metal, what can go wrong?

 

[Tkonrr]

Lithium metal, what can go wrong?

Gasoline fires are burning out of control at the moment due to bad judgement. Besides the hazards and destruction, gasoline is a dirty fuel.

 

[JHZR2]

Gasoline fires are burning out of control at the moment due to bad judgement. Besides the hazards and destruction, gasoline is a dirty fuel.

Do you actually work with batteries, and more specifically on battery safety?

I doubt it.

No, its vastly different.

One of the banes of existence in even Li-ion (emphasis ion, so no metal present) is the dissolution and plating of metallic dendrites that pierce the separator and start a hard, low impedance short.

In a li-ion battery, this is only a tiny bit of metal, followed by an electrolyte fire and decomposition of cathode.

In a Li-metal battery, this would result in a fire of some components, triggering a class D metal fire which is a major challenge to get out.

Since current firefighting doctrine recommends deluge or water mist to remove latent heat, now we can’t even apply that because water on a metal fire is horrendously dangerous. And now firefighters need to be battery experts to know which type might be in a vehicle.

These aren’t coin cells. This isn’t imagination about being green. It’s real, major loss and safety considerations.

Vastly different than your straw man.

 

[oil pan 4]

Gasoline fires are burning out of control at the moment due to bad judgement. Besides the hazards and destruction, gasoline is a dirty fuel.

My 20lb CO2 fire extinguisher will easily put out a gasoline fire. A small one with one squirt of CO2. All 20lb of CO2 won't even touch a battery fire.

 

[dguzzi]

You might consider 'could' . I think battery fires are not inevitable.
Technology will move forward as it did with gasoline.

 

[Cujet]

I've been a critic of battery claims forever. The linked article is no exception. Quote: "ranges over 600 miles (966 km) per charge from a 90-kWh battery" NONSENSE.

90kWh is a specific amount of energy that can provide a real world 90 HP for one hour, or 45HP for 2 and so on.

Let's take this to it's conclusion. 600 miles is 8 hours of driving at 11HP continuous. Haha, no. 150 Watt hours per mile? Utter nonsense.