Social Security Retirement & Disability COLA 2025

I figured that.
Call me crazy but I think these past two years COLA increases are too low. At least the previous year the Part B didnt go up much, this year is different.
... and yeah, after looking at what is going on with Medigap and Advantage Plans up there, wow, insane. I posted to you before I would have to pay close to or exactly at $300 more a month for my current Plan N up there.
and... in my old zip code it shows NO available Advantage Plans, shocking. But hey, that's Long Island for you.

After being in Medigap N for just this past one year I am going back to Advantage. We still have a fair amount of plans and one of them is REALLY good. Max out of pocket $3,500 SO you know I am not blowing smoke check this out.
Also EVERY medical network here takes this plan so far for 2026 including Duke and all the doctors/specialists I have seen except for one and no longer needed since im done with radiation.

Anyway, this one is a no brainer however I am considering one or two others. BCBSNC which I current have them for Plan N but they also offer some pretty good Advantage at just slightly higher cost. One of their plans is only $4100 out of pocket, it's one of their more premium plans and cost $40 a month more than the part B payment. However compared to this plan below, they offer enough that makes up that $40.

Just in case you dont believe me... *LOL*
https://www.humana-medicare.com/BenefitSummary/2026PDFs/H1036335001SB26.pdf
I believe you! And use COLA is too low!!!! Regarding advantage plans, I have an agent. The only plan she could get us into which is a PPO is to go back with Aetna, Cigna bailed. I can get into an HMO, no thanks. Now our max out of pocket is $13,900 per person/year with a few other tweaks making the plan considerably worse. This mess goes back a few presidencies, and it's still hurting many of us. For about $600/ month [based on your figures] for a supplemental plan for me and my wife, I'll gamble and self insure for the $27,800 annual out of pocket max. SICKENING!!!!
 
Yep 2.5% last year. Is Medicare going to hold steady, price taken out of SS I mean, or are they raising it? I didn't want to look, no point in getting PO'ed over it from now...... I know they cut my Medicare benefits here in NY, making that 2.8% increase a joke, and an even bigger joke if Medicare goes up in 2026.

Edit: Is see @alarmguy answered my question. I guess I can PO'ed be from now............ Thanks buddy!!!!!!! ;)
I am not saying your wrong, but Medicare and SS are two completely separate laws, funded specifically by different taxes, and administered very differently. The adjustments to payouts, costs, and fees are well defined within the laws themselves, so the respective administrators are simply following the laws.

Social security is progressive - meaning the more you pay in, the less percentage you will get out comparatively. The bend points are 90%, 32% and 15% respectively.

Medicare is not progressive - or not much. There are some differences on the pay in while on it - but generally everyone gets the same benefit rates.

So comparing them in the same context in regards to policy doesn't make sense. Other than its overall cost of retirees living and so hence one affects the other after the fact.
 
Thank you. I will have to educate myself on the difference. My irritation here is not directed at you (obviously) but it seems a little cute to have all these different inflation measures when in reality you are trying to capture the cost of daily living. Yes, that is a difficult thing to do and there are many variables involved, but it is curious to me what is achieved by using multiple measuring tools when you are trying to capture the same thing.

Have a nice weekend.
The inflation impact of various categories of goods varies widely. For example, the cost of healthcare exceeds the inflation of the "average" basket of goods by a wide margin meaning there are other items in the basket inflating below that overall measure. People's needs for various goods varies widely meaning no one average index is accurate for all of us.

It would be great if there was only one inflation index that worked for all of us, but that index does not exist.
 
The inflation impact of various categories of goods varies widely. For example, the cost of healthcare exceeds the inflation of the "average" basket of goods by a wide margin meaning there are other items in the basket inflating below that overall measure. People's needs for various goods varies widely meaning no one average index is accurate for all of us.

It would be great if there was only one inflation index that worked for all of us, but that index does not exist.
Plus very regional!
 
To keep it simple, the SS Cola increase for the year 2026 is 2.8%
MY brain, seeing the thread titled 2025 COLA ... messes with me. *LOL*
😄 ha ha!
Yeah, It could go either way. Think about the increase being announced in 2025.
Social Security is going up 2.8 percent starting Jan 1 2026
https://www.ssa.gov/news/en/cola/factsheets/2026.html
SSI recipients will get paid the higher amount starting on December 31st, 2025
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10031-2025.pdf?ftag=MSFd61514f
 
I believe you! And use COLA is too low!!!! Regarding advantage plans, I have an agent. The only plan she could get us into which is a PPO is to go back with Aetna, Cigna bailed. I can get into an HMO, no thanks. Now our max out of pocket is $13,900 per person/year with a few other tweaks making the plan considerably worse. This mess goes back a few presidencies, and it's still hurting many of us. For about $600/ month [based on your figures] for a supplemental plan for me and my wife, I'll gamble and self insure for the $27,800 annual out of pocket max. SICKENING!!!!
Not sure your opposition to an HMO/POS I noticed that in your posts before. As long as your doctors are in network, no big deal.
Many people are misinformed about them. I havent live in NY in some time now. But no matter what plan I get here, PPO or HMO its all the same, your either in network or not. HMO/POS here have no "gate keepers" you do not need authorization or a referral to see a specialist which is a common misconception that you do. With that said, of course I read my documents and make sure of it. Because you do need to see the words, and they highlight it. THIS PLAN DOES NOT REQUIRE A REFERRAL TO SEE A SPECIALIST

Ok, with that said I would never carry insurance with an out of pocket of $13,900 I would consider getting a Medigap Plan G high deductible with almost a no cost Part D and pay for my own dentist.
You can have Part A,B,D and Plan G high deductible ($2800) for $100 a month So they take your for 2026 approx $210 from your SS check plus $100 a month. You pay all medical expenses until you hit $2800 and you done, after that 100%

However I get it, it still adds up, the $100 plus paying up to $2,800 plus the SS check withdrawal of $210 Which brings me to this.
I AM GLAD I GOT OUT OF THAT PLACE !!! *LOL*

I just typed in a place in Nassau County as an example of Part G high deductible. I agree it still sucks but at least your not exposed up to $13,900 a person
https://www.medicare.gov/medigap-su.../plans?fips=36059&zip=11793&year=2026&lang=en

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I am not saying your wrong, but Medicare and SS are two completely separate laws, funded specifically by different taxes, and administered very differently. The adjustments to payouts, costs, and fees are well defined within the laws themselves, so the respective administrators are simply following the laws.

Social security is progressive - meaning the more you pay in, the less percentage you will get out comparatively. The bend points are 90%, 32% and 15% respectively.

Medicare is not progressive - or not much. There are some differences on the pay in while on it - but generally everyone gets the same benefit rates.

So comparing them in the same context in regards to policy doesn't make sense. Other than its overall cost of retirees living and so hence one affects the other after the fact.
I know how it works. I guess the confusion is coming from the fact that Medicare is deducted from Social Security, so we see a 2.8% SS COLA increase, then see Medicare going up by $21.50/month, as you stated earlier, it wipes out a nice piece of the SS increase. Then Medicare benefits depending on where you live are taking a major hit/cut, you name it. We might get the same benefit rate, but we aren't getting the same benefits from Medicare for that rate. Depending on where you live not even close, as in my case. So that 2.8% turns into a negative number factoring in the out of pocket increase and benefit reductions from Medicare.
 
I know how it works. I guess the confusion is coming from the fact that Medicare is deducted from Social Security, so we see a 2.8% SS COLA increase, then see Medicare going up by $21.50/month, as you stated earlier, it wipes out a nice piece of the SS increase. Then Medicare benefits depending on where you live are taking a major hit/cut, you name it. We might get the same benefit rate, but we aren't getting the same benefits from Medicare for that rate. Depending on where you live not even close, as in my case. So that 2.8% turns into a negative number factoring in the out of pocket increase and benefit reductions from Medicare.
Yes. Confusing and a buck is a buck irrelevant of who took it from you.

Both programs should never have been put "on budget". I am convinced 100% of the complication was put in place specifically to keep people in the dark about most of it.
 
I just typed in a place in Nassau County as an example of Part G high deductible. I agree it still sucks but at least your not exposed up to $13,900 a person
https://www.medicare.gov/medigap-su.../plans?fips=36059&zip=11793&year=2026&lang=en
Using the link: Premiums range from $301-$622 for a 67 year old male that doesn't use tobacco. That's a lot of wood, then I have to add in my wife. I'll be getting on the phone with my agent again. She said the HMO plans in the area sucked. She gets paid the same rate for whatever plan we take so there's no reason for her to steer us wrong, in fact she's quite good.. I have to do some more homework, I have until Dec 7.
 
Using the link: Premiums range from $301-$622 for a 67 year old male that doesn't use tobacco. That's a lot of wood, then I have to add in my wife. I'll be getting on the phone with my agent again. She said the HMO plans in the area sucked. She gets paid the same rate for whatever plan we take so there's no reason for her to steer us wrong, in fact she's quite good.. I have to do some more homework, I have until Dec 7.
Good luck.
 
Using the link: Premiums range from $301-$622 for a 67 year old male that doesn't use tobacco. That's a lot of wood, then I have to add in my wife. I'll be getting on the phone with my agent again. She said the HMO plans in the area sucked. She gets paid the same rate for whatever plan we take so there's no reason for her to steer us wrong, in fact she's quite good.. I have to do some more homework, I have until Dec 7.
I posted a screen shot, Part G high deductible for a town in Nassau County, however that is just for that town.
https://www.medicare.gov/medigap-su.../plans?fips=36059&zip=11793&year=2026&lang=en

$68 to $109 per month in a Nassau County zip code but keep in mind you get nothing until you pay a $2,800 deductible.

I would talk to other agents. or check yourself, "Find Plans". https://www.medicare.gov/

Honestly though, Im not saying your agent is wrong and I am not an agent, I mean this is REALLY simple stuff. The policies available are right on the Medicare website for every zip code in the USA. Clearly if she says the HMOs there suck that to me presents a negative thought about her only because she is not saying why AND does she actually think an out of pocket $14,000 per person is good?
 
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It is all smoke and mirrors. My social security comes to $......90. They round the 90 cents down to zero so I am out $ 10.80 for the year. Not a big deal, but not right. This month I received my September social security on October 3. That was for SEPTEMBER. However, if I croak on October 31 they will take that payment, which was for September, back. They cheat you at every opportunity.
 
I have not decided but I am so far following you. I might go back but in WA Advantage choices are now more limited.

My medication plan is free but my few new drugs are not. But the meds are cheap so it’s not terrible

I’m waffling here
I love researching this stuff and hours upon hours and more I am "waffling" between which plan I will take in 2026
However I kind of enjoy this stuff. As you know I had a lot of need for my health plan this year which makes me wonder if just a little bit ... "what if" This is why for sure, I will not settle for a high out of pocket Advantage and thankfully there is still one considered very low out of pocket (3,100) that is actually a very good plan with Humana.

Then, I could step it up just a little bit to BCBSNC (4,100) which isnt "free" meaning it's the cost of Part B plus an additional $40 a month. No big deal and with that extra cost even though the out of pocket is higher by a little bit that I will never hit anyway what is comforting with BCBSNC is unlike I think your state and also the Northeast. Here once in an Advantage plan you are stuck in Advantage unless you go through underwriting. With that said in my state, this one company BCBSNC markets themselves as "Blue to Blue" so with this company I can switch back and forth Advantage to Medigap without underwriting. That is a thought for me, because until I get past the next 18 months or so it's impossible to know what the next year or two may bring. But honestly not much more they can do anyway, except drug therapy at that point.

Last but not least is BCBSNC offers another advantage plan with similar amounts above and no $40 a month in exchange for a higher out of pocket of around $5400 and I dont want to go down the road to higher out of pockets. Principle, what is the purpose of the insurance then?

Which then brings the thought of just skipping a supplemental plan all together then. Keep A, B, and D then pay 20% of Medicare approved amounts which is a fraction of the actual amount charged. The danger here is once you go without a supplement or Medigap if you want to get back in you may have to go to underwriting. Impossible to say any particular state and I am not knowledgeable in anything more than this. But I think to go this route would be insane.

The thing is, without a supplement plan the costs are not as high as we think. Hospitals are covered 100% (after the deductible) and this is completely at no cost. Then you have Part B that you are covered 80% of medical costs. You much pay the 20% of the APPROVED medicare cost which is stupid low compared to the retail charge.

This is the medical part of one radiation treatment
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SO if I didnt have Medigap Plan N I would have had to pay that 20% of the approved amount = $8.49 since I have Medigap Plan N it was paid by BCBSNC

Ok, here is an actual treatment as outpatient for a little less than a month of radiation however this is Part A 100% (out patient and I dont understand all this part but I think a Part A co/pay being outpatient )
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SO if I didnt have Part N Medigap I would have owed $865.16 a far cry from $30,000 ... anyway... just talking. I think, way, way, way too much. My plan N paid it
This years bills will easily be well over 100k I think, and as much as we complain, wow, I paid less then 2k. Plus $329 a month in premiums Part B and Plan N combined.

Full disclosure :)
Anything I post in here is my personal thoughts and experiences. I am not a licensed agent in anyway. I do think anyone can educate themselves if they choose to by going to medicare.gov and then if unsure of themself at least have the knowledge to have an intelligent conversation with a licensed agent.
 
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😄 ha ha!
Yeah, It could go either way. Think about the increase being announced in 2025.

SSI recipients will get paid the higher amount starting on December 31st, 2025
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10031-2025.pdf?ftag=MSFd61514f
No the higher amount will start being paid on the second Wed of Jan 2026 which is Jan 14th
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10031-2026.pdf

The circle you see on the 31 is not Social Security as we are discussing. The 31 on the calendar is Supplemental Social Security. (SSI)
https://www.aarp.org/social-security/faq/what-is-ssi/
 
For the typical American paying $185 for Part B Medicare (2025) The Medicare increase for 2026 is projected to eat up a good portion of the 2.8% Social Security increase for many people. Approx $21.50 to $206.50 as a projection for Part B in 2026
I must not be typical. My wife and I each pay $512 for Part B. And I still pay normal Medicare on my wages.
 
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