Smoke from the fires

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We are near Colville, Washington and its awful here. Worst yr for smoke in my lifetime.

The air quality for the past week has been sitting right above 200 on the AQI value or very unhealthy.
 
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Am I the only one who read "tires" instead of "fires"??
;^)


That’s it … Pennzoil making graphics for BITOG banner …
 
Originally Posted By: Uphill_Both_Ways
The smoke from the B.C. and Alberta fires is filling the atmosphere here, too, 800 miles and more from the fires. The sun turns from a hazy yellow disc during the day to dark red in the late afternoon and evening, with the atmosphere and once-blue sky an obscuring, dirty grey, shrouding the city's skyline.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/air-quality-manitoba-bc-forest-fires-1.4787412
Originally Posted By: Uphill_Both_Ways
The smoke from the B.C. and Alberta fires is filling the atmosphere here, too, 800 miles and more from the fires. The sun turns from a hazy yellow disc during the day to dark red in the late afternoon and evening, with the atmosphere and once-blue sky an obscuring, dirty grey, shrouding the city's skyline.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/air-quality-manitoba-bc-forest-fires-1.4787412


Winnipeg is getting the triple whammy today. Fire Smoke is coming from Northern Alberta, the Oregon, Idaho area as well as Minnesota.
Check Firesmoke.ca .
 
Wondering what effect these terrible fires will have on the continental USA's upcoming fall & winter weather. Can any of the massive, long-lasting smoke reach into the upper atmosphere?
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Not gonna change anytime soon. The 15 year drought in Cali is the worst in approximately 1000 years in North America.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/09/02/california-megadrought/14446195/
2008 I went as a assistant scout master to summer camp yeah I loved it. When the Scouts were at the morning merit badge classes a dad who was an actual forester and had no financial duties to those that paid him to lie Took us on an educational walk through the forest . Pretty much everything you have learned from school and see on the TV is really wrong. He took a core sample of a huge tree and showed us the tree was over 400 years old by counting the rings and lectured us the fast growth and slow growth periods in the trees life when the trees were young and over the decades, the dry years and the wet years, The western U.S and Canada have been on an over 300 year drought period and the forests are old and dying. Todays forests aren't like they were 200 years ago when fires would burn until they decided to stop. The dying trees promote the breeding of the beetles that eat the trees also fires kill lots of bugs and burn the duff off of the forest floors that allow seeds to contact the dirt and grow. The ash is an ultimate fertilizer full of minerals that the trees pulled up from their roots. the government forest management while well intentioned has really been bad.
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Not gonna change anytime soon. The 15 year drought in Cali is the worst in approximately 1000 years in North America.


Weird. Wasn't it only last year that California was going to be flooded?
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
the government forest management while well intentioned has really been bad.


As I understand it, things are even worse than that.

First the US government prevented forest fires for decades, thereby allowing more and more tinder to grow up, then the 'environmentalists' forced them to close many of the roads into the woods, so when a fire does start, the firefighters no longer have easy access, and it grows to massive size.

Seems to be just another failed government program that blames everything but itself.
 
We frequently ride our horses in the Colville National Forest and the fuel load of dead trees is staggering.

Some of the old trails are blocked by dead wind blown trees stacked like toothpicks and these stacks are 15-20 ft tall and go on for miles.

Most of this is caused by bark beetle damage that kills the tree then wind takes them out and then they start stacking up.

The US forest service are just going to let these areas burn if they catch fire. They have these areas mapped out and too dangerous to fight fire. Thankfully they are miles from structures.
 
Originally Posted By: Dave1027
Originally Posted By: Al
Not gonna change anytime soon. The 15 year drought in Cali is the worst in approximately 1000 years in North America.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/09/02/california-megadrought/14446195/


Fake news. We had too much rain last year. Of course all that rain may have contributed fuel for this year's fires.


FWIW That USA Today story was written 4 years ago.
 
The smoke prediction from firesmoke.ca is exceptionally bad today, August 18. It’s suggesting the entire states of Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Montana and Wyoming will be covered in smoke by noon. Firesmoke.ca

Like weather forecasts it can be wrong since everything I’d dependent on wind.
 
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