Smart Change > 6 qt?

[HermanBear]

After several 6 x 1-qt bottle OCs with M1 I recently used the Havoline Lifelong ProDS to see if a minor oil consumption issue improves. After roughly the same OCI there did seem to be more oil left on the dipstick, but after refilling I noticed that the oil level started higher, almost to the top of the hatched area, vs. right in the middle with the M1.

Note: I do remove the bag from the box and lightly squeeze out the remaining product. Could Chevron be overfilling to account for incomplete pouring bag vs. bottle? Or, is the extra 1/3-1/2 qt there sneaky way of addressing oil consumption?

 

[ctechbob]

The couple bags I poured into my Lisle pitcher the last time someone questioned the amount in the bag came right to the 6qt line with basically a couple tsp's left in the bag to drain.

As mechanized and computerized as their filling line likely is, you're getting 6qts of liquid on the dot I'd imagine.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I can't see an oil company giving away extra oil?

Every engine has a spec for oil change volume, and a "dry engine" spec volume- because a quart or more stays in the engine during a change interval - no matter how long it drains. Possibly more stayed in last time for some reason?

 

[Klutch9]

Maybe the one quart bottles hold onto slightly more oil because it has overall more surface area than the bag?

 

[tblt44]

I had a glob of metal chips on the drain plug the one time I used Ds

 

[HermanBear]

Maybe the one quart bottles hold onto slightly more oil because it has overall more surface area than the bag?

You may be on to something. Worst case 1 tbsp / bottle X 6 = ~0.1 qt. I wouldn’t expect that to move the level 1/2 the hatched area, but I’m going off memory so that could be it.

 

[ctechbob]

If R&P didn't exist I would still be using the LL 5W30 in my F150. Used it almost exclusively in the Ranger.

 

[HermanBear]

I had a glob of metal chips on the drain plug the one time I used Ds

 

[eljefino]

Does Jif give you more peanut butter because you can't get it all out of the jar?

I don't really like the bag-boxes. I use a 5 qt widemouth M1 jug as an intermediary dispenser and need three hands-- one on the spout, one on the jug, and one on the box to dispense without dribbling. I do collapse the box and manipulate the bladder for the last little bits, but find the routine, IDK, gross?

 

[Dave1027]

I think this thread is related to the OP's issue. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/havoline-smart-change-bag-issue.363776/

Maybe Havoline is adding an extra 1/2 quart to compensate?

 

[50yr Street Mech]

Used to buy the boxed oil for the extra quart. But, I have 4 banger cars. 4 qts tops with filter. Started transferring them into empty 5 qt jugs to make OCI's easier. Just made a mess. Used up more rags and cleaner than the cost of a quart of oil. Went back to the 5 qt jugs. Much simpler in my case.

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

I had a glob of metal chips on the drain plug the one time I used Ds

Pics?

 

[tblt44]

Pics?

Nope
Should have

 

[D.P.R.]

I think this thread is related to the OP's issue. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/havoline-smart-change-bag-issue.363776/

Maybe Havoline is adding an extra 1/2 quart to compensate?

I'm not saying its impossible just highly unlikely an oil company gives away 1/2 a quart of oil on every box/bag they sell. Multiply by the thousands of bags being sold and it would be a huge loss. Maybe a few thousand bags slipped trough because a calibration issue but I doubt it is the company's standard practice

 

[DanL13]

Box/bags suck.

 

[wlk]

Always a tad left that didn't drain, it's fine as I always prefer to be at the top of the hatches, never middle.