Small engine oil filters

[RS700L]

I have a Tecumseh OHV 155 on a riding mower. Parts for the thing are getting a little expensive...I was wondering if anyone knew of an oil filter that fits it other than Tecumseh O.E.

Soon, I will take measurements of the threads and o-ring on the old filter and try to match something up.

Also, what luck have you had using automotive filters on your mower engines?

 

[daman]

Welcome to the site,a search would have showed yes you can run bigger automotive filters,no problems.

go to WIX.com and type in your filter and cross it over to something bigger that has the same threads,seal,etc,etc..


whats your filter number??

 

[expat]

"Also, what luck have you had using automotive filters on your mower engines?"

I have, almost from Day 1.
No problem, just 1/4 the price, and easier to get.

 

[Cup of Joe]

If you have the OE part number cross reference it here.

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

My generac generator and my Kawasaki powered JD ZTR both use filters the same size and thread as a toyota yaris or slightly longer toyota camry.

 

[moklock]

I have used the AC PF53/WIX 51348/Supertech ST3614 size filters like a Saturn S-Series would take to replace B&S oil filters for years and they work perfect.

 

[Jim 5]

I am using a fram XG (can't remember which one) on my John Deere JX75 walk behind. The fram is about the same price as the John Deere filter, but the auto parts store was closer than the JD dealer.

I have a season on this filter with no problems at all. It's probably a better filter than the JD filter anyway.

 

[kcfx4]

I run Quakerstate (cheap price) filters on both my jds w kawasaki engines, never a problem

 

[JTK]

Any engine oil filter that will thread on, seat and fit in the allotted space will work perfectly. Instead of Kohler engine oil filters, I use a larger PH3600/FL400 size and have so for years.

Joel

 

[chubbs1]

Just to go against the grain for informations sake, I know an old time small engine repair man in my town. He is in his 70's or so and still works like a madman...anyhoo he has always told me small engine filters are designed for less flow in mind as opposed to car filters. He said flow can be restricted by auto filters. I use the small engine filters, but it would be interesting to know if that is true. I guess keep usin what is workin for you!

 

[JTK]

chubbs, no disrespect to your OPE mechanic friend- I wish I had half of the abilities and experience, but I've never found one that truly understood oil and oil filters.

Joel

 

[daman]

There's nothing to support that guy's claims..a PCOF will flow just fine if not better,the can is bigger, more media area etc..

 

[expat]

"he has always told me small engine filters are designed for less flow in mind as opposed to car filters. He said flow can be restricted by auto filters."

This statement seems to contradict itself!

 

[boraticus]

Bigger engines = more oil = more flow. Simple.

 

[RS700L]

Thanks everyone. Saved me a lot of time.

 

[Hootbro]

Originally Posted By: boraticus
Bigger engines = more oil = more flow. Simple.


Bigger sump quantity does not necessarily mean more flow or flow rate.

If give two sump quantities of lets say 4 and 8 quarts and both are to flow at a rate of 9 GPM, neither one is pushing more oil in a give same time period.

 

[boraticus]

Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Originally Posted By: boraticus
Bigger engines = more oil = more flow. Simple.


Bigger sump quantity does not necessarily mean more flow or flow rate.

If give two sump quantities of lets say 4 and 8 quarts and both are to flow at a rate of 9 GPM, neither one is pushing more oil in a give same time period.


Not talking about sump volumes.

I'm comparing an engine that is much larger than an OPE engine. Thus requiring more oil flow to provide sufficient lubrication. A filter capable of providing sufficient flow for a multi cylinder auto engine should provide sufficient flow for an OPE engine a fraction of the size. No?

 

[Rickey]

There is one small negative to using the larger car filters on OPE:

Given that OPE engines have smaller oil pumps, it takes considerably longer to fill a larger filter.
This means the engines runs with ineffective oiling for a longer period after an oil filter change.
The fix that I use is to pre-fill the new oil filter.

Good day.

Rickey.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: Rickey
There is one small negative to using the larger car filters on OPE:

Given that OPE engines have smaller oil pumps, it takes considerably longer to fill a larger filter.
This means the engines runs with ineffective oiling for a longer period after an oil filter change.
The fix that I use is to pre-fill the new oil filter.

Good day.

Rickey.

That would ONLY be on the initial start with a dry filter and it would only take seconds to fill that filter,not a issue.

these small pumps are better then one thinks...

 

[boraticus]

Originally Posted By: Rickey
There is one small negative to using the larger car filters on OPE:

Given that OPE engines have smaller oil pumps, it takes considerably longer to fill a larger filter.
This means the engines runs with ineffective oiling for a longer period after an oil filter change.
The fix that I use is to pre-fill the new oil filter.

Good day.


Rickey.


Good idea. Could be a bit sloppy to install a filter already filled though.

One way around that problem is to spin the engine without actually starting it. That way, the oil pump will circulate oil into the filter. That's what I do with my Kubota diesel engine on my generator.

An increase in filter size will also require a few more ounces of oil. In situations where it's possible, I'd do as you say, then fill the sump with recommended amount and take a reading. Top off as required.

 

[Rickey]

Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: Rickey
There is one small negative to using the larger car filters on OPE:

Given that OPE engines have smaller oil pumps, it takes considerably longer to fill a larger filter.
This means the engines runs with ineffective oiling for a longer period after an oil filter change.
The fix that I use is to pre-fill the new oil filter.

Good day.

Rickey.

That would ONLY be on the initial start with a dry filter and it would only take seconds to fill that filter,not a issue.

these small pumps are better then one thinks...


The delay in oil pressure depends on several factors.

My Kohler with a big 'ol FL400 sized filter takes over 10 agonizing seconds to put the oil light out if the filter is not initially pre-filled.

It gets pre-filled on each OCI resulting in the oil light going out almost immediately.
Of course the vertical filter mounting makes this an easier task.
Your mileage may vary.

Good day.

Rickey.