Sig 229 owners???

[JHZR2]

Hello,

Anybody own a sig 229? What do you think of it? How does it compare, say, to a glock 19, available at 2/3 the price? Ditto on the Walther PPS?

Any things to be concerned with? Any reasons to avoid?

Id like another 9mm to compliment my Beretta M9. These two are on my short list, and I am able to get either with a decent discount.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

JMH

 

[fd1430]

I own a 229 in .357 sig and a 239 sas in .40 both are very good guns no problems at all. The 239 is easier to carry concealed than the 229 (smaller,lighter,no sharp edges)especially down here in south florida. I also own a few glocks 19-21sf-27 they are light,reliable and easy to maintain you cant go wrong with any of the above.

 

[kaboom10]

I have one chambered in 357sig. After using a P220 45acp for a test gun in our ammo loading business I had to have another. I outfitted it with a laser and night sights. I recommend it highly. The trouble I found with a Glock is the factory barrel doesn't allow shooting lead. I have a Taurus PT99 in 8mm that is like a Beretta. Nice if you don't abuse it. The nice thing about a 357sig is you can change the barrel and shoot 40s&w.

 

[Bill in Utah]

I had a early Sig. Cracked the frame on it under 1000 rounds.

When they finally got me a new one and seeing others have the same problem, I sold it and bought a Glock.

Put tens of thousands of rounds through the Glock. Sold it for a S&W M&P which is better IMO. Now I've sold all my Glocks and have M&Ps to replace them.

Don't like the unsupported chamber in a Glock. Esp with a high pressure round like 40S&W.

You can also do the .357sig with just a barrel change with the GLock and S&W. About $75 for the S&W and $120-$150 for the Glock.

Also remember that there is a VERY good chance that within a few months, there will be a ban on all imported weapons. Don't know if that my incl parts.

The S&W is made USA. (of course, there is a good chance that the gun MFG will be allowed to be sued for some crackhead shooting some one and the guns mfg fault since they made a weapon...)

The USA MFG may be out of biz due to all the dumb lawsuits.

Take care, bill

PS: Rosy aren't I ....

 

[wavinwayne]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
...Also remember that there is a VERY good chance that within a few months, there will be a ban on all imported weapons...


Why Bill, whatever do you mean?

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: wavinwayne
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
...Also remember that there is a VERY good chance that within a few months, there will be a ban on all imported weapons...


Why Bill, whatever do you mean?


Just a guess....

 

[ebausch]

I carry a SIG 229 at work. Like all SIGs they are a great gun but personally I prefer the 226 with its longer barrel and thinner grip. Glocks are great guns too but the grip angle bothers me. I found it difficult to switch back and forth between the SIG and Glock because of that.

Since you are in the market for a new pistol you should check out S&W's M&P. They did a really good job on it. In many ways it resembles a Glock including the same trigger pull for each shot. That makes shooting well much easier.

 

[Oil_Can_Harry]

Sig now offers an all stainless versions of the 220, 226 and 229 called the stainless elite series. Both the frame and slide are made of stainless steel, which should make it more durable (and heavier) than the aluminum frame models.

 

[Saturn_Fan]

I own a Sig P229 and and M&P .40, and really like them both. Was the 350 bucks I paid for the Sig over the Smith worth it? Not really. I just bought a Sig to have one as I always wanted one. I have had two Glocks also. A 23 and a 27 and I agree with Bill. It is really unsettling that Glock makes a .40 that is really built on a 9mm chassis so to speak.

A lot of folks put 20-30K rounds on Glocks with no problems, but you CANNOT use lead bullets or reloads with higher pressures or KaBoom!

The M&P is well thought out and is VERY comfortable, even with small hands. The interchangeable grip is great.

The P229 is hard to shoot with smaller or stubby hands. I even installed the Sig factory "short trigger" which is a really thin profiled trigger for easier reach, but it is still hard to grip comfortably as it is so wide.

In retrospect regarding the Sig, I wish I had gone with an HK USP compact or P2000 for an expensive gun.

I think the M&P would get more respect if it were not for the early failures of the Sigma. The Sigma still has holds some stigma in the minds of some.

 

[kaboom10]

Originally Posted By: Saturn_Fan

A lot of folks put 20-30K rounds on Glocks with no problems, but you CANNOT use lead bullets or reloads with higher pressures or KaBoom!


The polyagonal rifling causes lead to be shaved off each RNL round till it builds up to where the slide is not in battery even though it looks it. We had to put a disclaimer on our ammo after seeing the results in a gunsmithing magazine. obtw Taurus PT99 and PT100 are based on the same frame. I had no problems with the 40s&w rounds. I got a barrel in 357sig also.

 

[wavinwayne]

I shot 50 rounds of RNL bullets (reloads) through my Glock 19 once. Nothing BAD happened, other than the barrel rifling being a bear to clean. I decided lead bullets were not good for the Glock, and never shot them again.

 

[kaboom10]

You are very lucky nothing happened. The lead could have been soft and acellerated the shaving process.

 

[Tempest]

I've run thousands of lead rounds through an early G21 without issue. I used to work at a range (back in the day) that had many Glocks for rent that got nothing but lead through them, and nothing happened.
It's a non-issue IMHO.

To the topic, I used to be a big Sig fan (when they had about 6 models) but quality has dropped off noticeably and they now have a "gun of the week" program.

Quantity over quality, but I wouldn't put them in the realm of "bad guns" yet.

I still have an older P226 and like it, but I like the XD platform much better. Sigs have a high bore axis which allows more muzzle flip. Many say this is a non-issue, but is noticeable to me.

If you like the gun, shoot it well, and it fits your hand/points well, get it. These are more important things than the name on the side.

 

[JHZR2]

well ive handled, but not shot the sig p229 and glock 17L and 19.

The 229 and 19 felt the best to me, but Im sure they are not as accurate at longer distances, compared to the 17L's longer barrel and sight distance. Is it just me, or do the shorter pistols feel way more balanced?

Ill have to go to the local range that rents and try both, if posible.

Thanks,

JMH

 

[Saturn_Fan]

Sig P6/P225 is a nice 9mm that you can get for around 300 bucks. I have shot and handled them and they are great deals. They are W. German police trade ins and some of them are in near mint condition and fired very little. They were produced in the 80's and early 90's.

 

[JHZR2]

to be honest, after looking and shooting both, I think Ill save up for and acquire both.

I like the P226 too, but I have a deal available on the 229, none on the 226...

To branch out on this thread, anyone have the glock 34 or 35 "tactical/practical" supposedly more accurate glock pistols?

Thanks,

JMH

 

[SinisterK9]

When I worked up in Wyoming for the Cheyenne PD, the Glock 35 was our standard sidearm. Very accurate weapon. During the course of the academy we put at least a thousand rounds or more through the weapons with no problems.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: SinisterK9
When I worked up in Wyoming for the Cheyenne PD, the Glock 35 was our standard sidearm. Very accurate weapon. During the course of the academy we put at least a thousand rounds or more through the weapons with no problems.


I got rid of all my Glocks after seeing 2 Kabooms (with my own eyes) at the range. (and there have been a few more)

Unsupported chambers are not my idea of safe. Though I'd put many thousands of rounds down the chambers of my Glocks, I did not want to risk it anymore.

Example: Kaboom Glock....

Sadly there are many more.

Take care, bill

PS: Glock to this day STILL has unsupported chambers.

PPS: Even though most of the Kabooms have been with the .40 cal models, I don't like the problems with lead that I had with the .45acp.

 

[kaboom10]

While doing R&D on ammo I bought I had a 45 acp case split. It was in my Sig P220. The gun was cleared and continued to fire flawlessly. I sold my Glock for the simple reason it wouldn't work in R&D work and had pics to prove it.

 

[JHZR2]

those kabooms and issues are with rounds other than 9mm. Ive not heard of any real issues with 9mm. Is this the case, or are 9mm issues rampant too?

Ive seen replacement barrels that allow shooting with lead. I dont think id be going that route regardless.

Thanks!