Should we buy Oil or anything from Walmart?

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About 2003-4 my wife worked in the fabric dept at a local Walmart. They were very easy to work for. Quite flexable with work hours, and allowed her to take off when we vacationed. Also the 10% discount was good and that was good for me as well, so I could buy Mobil 1 oils at a discount. Ha.
 
Its not. It just is the biggest so it gets the attention.

Target tries to differentiate, but I have to wonder if they are any different. That would be an interesting thing to see.
 
What about Auto Zone, Advance Auto, Pep Boys, etc. We used to have several locally owned parts stores here in town, but since these big box parts stores showed up all the Mom and Pop parts places are gone.
 
No different. Plus they do quota hires in an industry where some real knowledge goes a long way. Terrible.
 
I don't know the numbers exactly but I'm sure a large portion of China's economic growth, and the decline of the U.S. and Canada's middle class is directly related to the rise of big box stores here.

I guess you have to blame the consumer that goes there, for being short sighted?

It seems like very simple math to me, buying China junk makes China richer and us poorer, one "rolled back" price at a time.

For the record I do have stuff made in China, but I try not to buy more if I can.
 
Originally Posted By: needsducktape
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I have changed how i buy things, I avoid as much union produced products as possible. My next vehicle will probably be a kia or vw tdi. I've never bought import/foreign but i will be now.


why avoid union produced items?

I think one of the many complaints of Walmart was that they didn't allow unions. I could be wrong though


That's one of the reasons I love Walmart. I despise unions.
 
I can say that its true. I work/worked part-time at Walmart as a secondary form of income for the past 6 months. The politics inside the place are insane.

1-Training is way overly done for even the most simplistic tasks. They are very anti-union but institute some of the union views. Meaning lunch is lunch, you MUST take it, and take it at the specified time for the specified amount of time. If you miss it, you need to fix it(ie, fill out a time adjustment and make it show that you took one) so Walmart does not get fined. Going back to the training, I spent days(hours per day) watching 56 training videos and exams on how to be a cashier and how to clean up a spill...

2-Your a peon. You work for supervisors who are far more incompetent than you. Example: On numerous occasions I was due for my "mandatory" break. Time came and went(i was working in the customer service/returns area). No one came by to relieve me or tell me to go on lunch(yes they have someone designated to tell you to goto lunch!).

So 7:30 came by, no 15 minute break, still alone at Returns. 9:30PM comes by and its my hour lunch. No-one came by. So I basically said a bunch of curse words and left(i honestly do not give a you know what). I took my hour and came back. Supervisor had the GAUL to question me and asked "WHO LET YOU GO ON LUNCH"? I replied "Walmart", scheduled for 9:30, I don't play your little power games. She starts to yell at me, and I basically exploded on her. This old woman thinking her $10/hr job of supervising means she can treat someone like that had it coming. My explosion basically made her cry and walk away.

I pointed out her failings as a manager and a human being. She broke policy by:
1-Yelling at me in front of customers and other employees.
2-Cursing at me.
3-Missing TWO mandatory break periods.
4-Allowing other employees to mess around do nothing("friends").

She then said she was going to coach me(ie verbally warn me). I told her to take the coaching and shove it. If I got coached, I said she would get fired. I laughed and walked away. This was after 4 months of the same [censored]. Nobody cared so long as they were the ones getting it done. Our store is skewed in that they want to ensure they hit sales goals and do it understaffed as possible to cut costs!

3-They punish those who WORK. I'd finished tasks in 15-20 minutes that took people HOURS!. They would then keep pushing and pushing me to do more and more while the lazy jerks aren't told to anything. A four hour shift would feel like a 30 hour one. I'd be stocking, doing carts, register, returns, unloading the trucks etc. Meanwhile the lazy people are just wandering aimlessly. They then kept scheduling me for insane hours(i told them 10 HOURS A WEEK!). They put me for 30! Saturday and sundays for 10+ hours! I quit lol.

4-Calling out is like dealing with the military. You call the sick line, enter your SS and DOB, confirm why your calling out twice via the automated response, then confirm if its for today or tommorow and confirm a third time why. Then they give you a confirmation number and transfer you to the store to speak with a asst manager/shift supervisor and explain to them why your calling out and provide them with the confirmation code. YOU THEN KEEP THE CODE BECAUSE THEY WILL REQUEST IT RANDOMLY AT ANY TIME! -_- FAIL!

5-They say they match coupons but will fight tooth and nail not to honor it. Returns would be like a 30 minute wait. When I got put there I made it a 30 second wait and honored the returns where applicable and adjusted accordingly. Your SOL if it was online pricing as no store matches that.

6-Credit was taken where it was not due. I'd have Returns or my other work areas clean and spotless at closing. Come morning they applaud the closing manager for a job well done and they TAKE THE CREDIT. Meanwhile I was the one routinely cleaning it and taking care of the area in question.

It arguably is one of the WORST places I have worked at. It was a part-time gig and it was horrible. What was probably my biggest erk was getting paid. I'd have to wait 30-45 minutes for a Asst Manager to eventually come to the safe to give me a check. On my own personal time.

Anything request wise would need to be spoken verbally to multiple people because no-one wanted to be burdened with it. Requests take weeks to process(IE SLOW). Then there are the schedules that are printed and available online. They are rarely the same. Seriously, I feel bad for people who have been there for 1+ years and make it a career after 5+.


This wall of text is just my ranting of it. After months of dealing with it, it eventually wears you down. The perks for the job aren't worth it either(10% discount on some items, not all). My days at BBV were far better.
 
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I am going to add that policy is policy. Whatever is dictated by Arkansas is how things get done.

Unloading a truck if very inefficient. A map of how to layout pallets is distributed by corporate. The trucks aren't loaded using pallets and organizing the loads. The trucks are basically filled with the merchandise THROWN in. So when unloading a truck you can have a box of oil, then desks, bikes, bleach, dog food etc. No particular order. I made mention of changing the pallet line up to be 1,2,3,4 etc instead of the 1, 21, 18, 12. The Asst Manager said"No no, we can't do that. We have to follow the guide by corporate. They want to ensure that everyone has a box in their hand". Meaning in-efficiency just so long as you work. And they wonder why unloading the truck takes so long? Just a few examples.

I used to love shopping at Walmart, but honestly after working there and seeing how its run from the inside its horrible. I feel sorry for the employees and how they are treated and how corporate screws with them. Cutting hours, cutting bonuses and the like.

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Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Any place that's anti-union gets my dollar. Even if it costs more. Unions have done a lot worse by this country than China.


+1
 
They are anti union, but their workers are treated poorly. Health insurance isnt feasible as they dont allow anyone to get near 35 hours. If they do or go over, they FORCE that individual to take extended unpaid breaks/lunches and adjust the timesheet. Insurance is expensive, talking a good chunk of your pay.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Any place that's anti-union gets my dollar. Even if it costs more. Unions have done a lot worse by this country than China.


+1

Do you guys have anything to say, other than what the billionaire who decides what you watch and hear, wants you to say?
Obviously some unions have been a drag on some companies, but in general they are there to give the little guy a voice that his employer can hear.
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
They are anti union, but their workers are treated poorly. Health insurance isnt feasible as they dont allow anyone to get near 35 hours. If they do or go over, they FORCE that individual to take extended unpaid breaks/lunches and adjust the timesheet. Insurance is expensive, talking a good chunk of your pay.


Uhhh.... Yeah, that would be why they are anti-union. Considering the point of a union was (traditionally) to ensure that workers were treated properly.

I find it somewhat comical that some condemn unions and praise Walmart (who apparently mistreats their employees), since the entire purpose of unions back when they were first created was to ensure the proper treatment of employees. I'm not talking the Buzz Hargrove "We'll shut down Ford because they won't give us more money!" style unions. But what they represent on a larger scale. What they stood for traditionally.

Apparently slave labour is back in vogue folks! Line your kids up for work at the new Walmart coal mine! Get your toddlers ready to start making Nike's! Black lung and arthritis for all! Let's go FULL retro!

Perhaps Tempest wasn't out to lunch at all on competing with China on a level field. Maybe the Chinese workers will be teaching the next generation of American toddlers how to properly sew an Air Jordan.
 
Unions were indeed good and dare i say necessary in olden days. They were actually useful as you stated. With time greed(imo) made them less worthwhile and did more harm than good. Its a blanket statement, but not every union is bad. Its dependant on the sector and what the goal of said union is.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Any place that's anti-union gets my dollar. Even if it costs more. Unions have done a lot worse by this country than China.


+1

Do you guys have anything to say, other than what the billionaire who decides what you watch and hear, wants you to say?


I don't know who that might be. I don't watch TV (ever) nor do I listen to the radio. I don't get my news from FOX OR CNN because they're both garbage. My opinions are formed by gaining an education, reading and studying history and current events, and being a member of the united states work force. So you can save your "Right Wing" "Left Wing" "Republican" and "Democrat" labels for the other sheep. That ain't me.
 
Originally Posted By: Anies
Unions were indeed good and dare i say necessary in olden days. They were actually useful as you stated. With time greed(imo) made them less worthwhile and did more harm than good. Its a blanket statement, but not every union is bad. Its dependant on the sector and what the goal of said union is.


Exactly! (hence my Buzz Hargrove example). They aren't all bad. But they aren't all good either. However, their initial purpose was to ensure that a worker was adequately compensated for their service. This is a part of what "modernized" North America and brought up our standard of living. Something it seems like Walmart wants no part of.... And so it is comical to see some so "anti union" (and not just anti UAW... I'm anti UAW, I think it is a circus) and pledging their support for a company that essentially stands for turning back the clock on our standard of living so that they (the consumer) can buy cheap junk imported from China in volume.

It is yet another demonstration of our race to the bottom in North America. We're willing to sell the jobs of our neighbours down the creek just as long as we can buy whatever lead-paint laden disposable hunk of fecal matter that we feel we need to waste money on today.

Who cars if Jim can't feed his kids, I've got hot pants, "SS" badges and fake ram air to buy!
 
I shop at Walmart. I was told by some guy to shop at the mom and pops but at Walmart I can buy a nice shirt of $14.00. The mom and pop wants $60.00 for the same shirt.

For auto stuff, Walmart is cheaper on some items, but in very close proximity you find Pep Boys, Napa, Auto Zone, O'Reilly, CarQuest and various independents. None of these other auto places is out of business due to Walmart.

Walmart here in Rosemead is king though for food and clothing.
 
Originally Posted By: Cristobal
I shop at Walmart. I was told by some guy to shop at the mom and pops but at Walmart I can buy a nice shirt of $14.00. The mom and pop wants $60.00 for the same shirt.


You sure it is the EXACT same shirt? Can't make any claims unless that is absolutely the case...
 
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