Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 - Pennz equivalent?

[Jetronic]

What's the pennzoil equivalent of the current Shell Helix Ultra 5w-40 (PurePlus technology)?

I'm specifically looking for an oil analysis, wondering if they are using a calcium/magnesium blend.

 

[LubeLuke]

Pennzoil 5w-40............

 

[Quattro Pete]

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w40.

 

[Jetronic]

Cheers!

 

[Hessam]

does RT6 use the same basetock as helix ultra?

 

[SR5]

From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: SR5
From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

Specs for the current Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 are different though:

http://www.epc.shell.com/documentRetrieve.asp?documentId=120746362

 

[Jetronic]

indeed they are

215°C vs 242°C flashpoint is the main difference....

Ideally I want a full fat 5w30 or 0w30 229.5 oil, but they're getting harder to find. Valvoline synpower 5w30 is still whole though...

So the Shell is my second choice, the 5w30 version has both a higher pour point and a 215°C flash point, I'm not sure this is a GTL oil.

 

[Jetronic]

RETRACTION: I found a NEW pds and the 5w30 with pureplus technology has a -48°C pour point and 244°C flash point. A bit thinner at 100°C but also thicker at 40°C. Must be because of less VII use.

I found my new goto oil I think...

 

[SR5]

And just to have them all in one place, I believe this is the very old non-GTL SHU 5W-40 PDS

non-GTL SHU 5W40

 

[SR5]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: SR5
From a previous thread

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: SR5

The newer GTL stuff has a higher HTHS (3.88). Do you have a link to the GTL PDS?

Pennzoil Ultra (now called Platinum Euro) pds when GTL was introduced, it is rebadged Shell Helix Ultra:
Pennzoil/Shell Ultra GTL


HTHS of 3.88 cP
Noack of 6.8 %
API SN/CF, ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB 229.5, Porsche A40, Ferrari & Maserati approved

I'm running some in my car right now.

Specs for the current Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 are different though:

http://www.epc.shell.com/documentRetrieve.asp?documentId=120746362


Hmmmm….. it looks more similar than different to me.
Assuming you have the new GTL spec, I have the old GTL spec, and previously I linked to the very old non-GTL spec above. You get

Spec # non-GTL # Old-GTL # New-GTL
Vis 40C # 74.4 # 80.7 # 80.8
Vis 100C # 13.1 # 13.2 # 13.3
Flash Point # 215C # 215.6C # 215C
Pour Point # -39C # -45C # - 45C
HTHS # 3.68 # 3.88 # NA
Noack # NA # 6.8 # NA
CCS # NA # 6200 # 6300
Density # 0.840 # 0.848 # 0.848

Not fighting, just saying what I have been told by others and looking at the figures, sort of works for me.